ARGHRGHRHGHRHGHGHRGHRGH! i was just finishing typing up a single reply to everyone and my browser crashed! AAAAAGHRHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGH. anyway, fear not, i'll reply to everyone later today.....too ticked off @ the computer to do it now. 
maftpro is working
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drjonez said:ARGHRGHRHGHRHGHGHRGHRGH! i was just finishing typing up a single reply to everyone and my browser crashed! AAAAAGHRHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGHRGH. anyway, fear not, i'll reply to everyone later today.....too ticked off @ the computer to do it now.
lol ive had that happen before as well.... since you are gonna reply later.... this system works with an GM map sensor or will it work with any map sensor period?
CTsupra
Supramania Contributor
after reading the replies in this thread. I'm sold. I'll be going maftpro on my next Mkiii. i'm exteremely glad new products are coming out in full-force! go back four years ago and no one was even thinking about this stuff.
if the maftpro will work with big singles and control 30+lbs of boost, I'll be even more sold when the time comes.
if the maftpro will work with big singles and control 30+lbs of boost, I'll be even more sold when the time comes.
Wow, after reading through this thread I am completly sold on the MAFTPro. I was going to just go with the normal MAFT but not anymore.
I'm sold!
Doc I will be in touch with you in the next few weeks to purchase one once I sell my existing MAF-T/S-AFC setup.
But before I do that, Is the ZT-2 wideband going to work with the MAFTpro?
Doc I will be in touch with you in the next few weeks to purchase one once I sell my existing MAF-T/S-AFC setup.
But before I do that, Is the ZT-2 wideband going to work with the MAFTpro?
A 3 bar map sensor can't read over 29 psig, but their site says you can use a 5 bar. I'd use a 4 if possible for more resolution.CtSupra said:
Seems this thread is really sellin Maftpros. Just make sure you guys tell them it's for a Mk3 (I don't know if it's really universal or you need to) so they see how the crowd is coming out and will have more upgrades.
I think im also sold, but i had three questions.
Im running the AEM wideband with the Bosch sensor, would it be possible to adapt MAFT Pro to use TAF feature with it, and/or datalog it?
Is there any control over ignition/timing with this unit?
Is there any nitrous control that would allow me to easly adjust fuel maps for use with nitrous?
Thanks
Im running the AEM wideband with the Bosch sensor, would it be possible to adapt MAFT Pro to use TAF feature with it, and/or datalog it?
Is there any control over ignition/timing with this unit?
Is there any nitrous control that would allow me to easly adjust fuel maps for use with nitrous?
Thanks
Fuzz420 said:
The definite answer is that someone would need to flowbench the flap AFM while powered and record the output vs. flow. Once we have those numbers we can add the flap AFM to MAFT pro.
lagged said:
I’ll assume you mean closed loop.
The three different throttle ranges and the A/F tracking certainly would help to minimize any problems you have closed loop or w/the closed/open loop transition.tte said:
There really seems to be some confusion about what all the MAFT pro can do. The nice thing is the flexibility:
-you can buy the unit itself for $399 and use it like a SAFC until you can afford to go farther
-you can use it like the original MAFT and use a GM hotwire MAF (blowthrough, etc.). all you need is a GM MAF
-you can use it to go speed/density (i.e. no AFM or MAF). All you need is the MAP + IAT + harnesses (which harnesses you get depends on how you’re going to wire it…).
-you can use it to control boost in addition to any of the above, you’ll just need the boost control solenoid + the harness.
Travisimo said:
MAP = manifold absolute pressure, i.e. speed/density method of fuel/timing control.
Blow through = blowing through a GM MAF.
Blue87T(Dan) said:
The ZT2 factors will be added to the next software release.
JT87NA said:
Please read above.
Idealsupra said:
To each their own, personally I find too many “black boxes” floating around to be annoying…better to condense it all into one box.
Idealsupra said:
yup, it does. The important thing is WHAT does it do w/it…..AFAIK it’s only used to fool the stock ECU into not freaking about about the absence of the stock temp sensor….it’s not used for temp correction in the speed/density calculation.
Idealsupra said:
good point. If you feel this way, just do the same w/the MAFT pro.
Idealsupra said:
yup, but can it alter the mixture based on this input? Nope.
Idealsupra said:
thanks!
Idealsupra said:
Any MAP sensor can be used, the “cal factors” just need to be present in the MAFT pro. Example a: I’m currently using an AEM 3.5 bar MAP.
CtSupra said:
good to hear! The reason I jumped on board was to help bring some new/better products to the MKIII platform.
Loki said:
Excellent! The MAFT pro is definitely a better choice if your goals are higher….
blackout_89t said:
Sweet! Just drop me a line when you’re ready to order….
As for the ZT, read above, it will be added to the next software release.
Travisimo said:
Right on….then again, how many people will run over 30 psi?
Travisimo said:
Seems to be sparking interest, though I haven’t had any orders yet…..all the more reason to order through me as they know what car I am supporting.
Turbo Denis said:
Yup, the AEM WB is currently supported. You can log it and use it for A/F tracking.
Turbo Denis said:
This is in the works….watch this space!
Turbo Denis said:
There isn’t a N2O control directly, but there is an aux in that you can use to trigger extra fuel, etc. that should work pretty well with N2O.
Question about MAFT-Pro software update: can I update software in the future myself? (using PC with some cable maybe?) or should I send it to manufacturer for update?
CTsupra
Supramania Contributor
Doc, you're the shit!
More questions:
How much is the boost controll solenoid? I cant find the price anywhere.
Is there a way to scale the AFM signal to deal with the boost cut?
Is it possible to use other brand MAP and IAT sensors? I dont like having anything GM in my car
Thanks
More questions:
How much is the boost controll solenoid? I cant find the price anywhere.
Is there a way to scale the AFM signal to deal with the boost cut?
Is it possible to use other brand MAP and IAT sensors? I dont like having anything GM in my car
Thanks
boost solenoid is $70:
http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/it...1B-A6FF-C471FF89EDCC}~ic~050highboost~Tp~.htm
the next revision of the software will have an adjustable AFM signal out clamp to use as a FCD if you so desire.
yup, you can use other sensors provided we have the factors for them. personally, i'd stick w/the GM stuff since it's dirt cheap....
http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/it...1B-A6FF-C471FF89EDCC}~ic~050highboost~Tp~.htm
the next revision of the software will have an adjustable AFM signal out clamp to use as a FCD if you so desire.
yup, you can use other sensors provided we have the factors for them. personally, i'd stick w/the GM stuff since it's dirt cheap....
If you are clamping the signal what issues will you have with tuning?
Would you have to then run larger injectors so that you are not leaning out past that certain hz that is clamped? Would clamping the signal really be necessary?
With the MAFT-pro is fuel cut just raised? I have the LEX/550 and SAFC now and am planning on upgrading to an SP63. I hit fuelcut with the setup as it is now on 60-1 at 20psi, would the MAFT-pro be able to resolve these issues? When adjusting the fuel how much timing adjustment is putting you into the danger zone of grenading the motor? Or will it be safe just running higher octane?
How far away is development for the timing control?
How hard is the wiring setup for the novice, installer and the userbility of the unit? Basically is it idiot friendly. :1zhelp:
With the function for the WB AF control manually adjusting, how would you set that up if just going to the dyno to tune or is it only meant to work if you have a personal WB installed in the car?
Sorry for all the Questions, just looking for something cost effective to use that is a little more advanced then LEX/AFM to keep me out of fuelcut at 20-22psi with functionality for improvement in tuning for the future.
Would you have to then run larger injectors so that you are not leaning out past that certain hz that is clamped? Would clamping the signal really be necessary?
With the MAFT-pro is fuel cut just raised? I have the LEX/550 and SAFC now and am planning on upgrading to an SP63. I hit fuelcut with the setup as it is now on 60-1 at 20psi, would the MAFT-pro be able to resolve these issues? When adjusting the fuel how much timing adjustment is putting you into the danger zone of grenading the motor? Or will it be safe just running higher octane?
How far away is development for the timing control?
How hard is the wiring setup for the novice, installer and the userbility of the unit? Basically is it idiot friendly. :1zhelp:
With the function for the WB AF control manually adjusting, how would you set that up if just going to the dyno to tune or is it only meant to work if you have a personal WB installed in the car?
Sorry for all the Questions, just looking for something cost effective to use that is a little more advanced then LEX/AFM to keep me out of fuelcut at 20-22psi with functionality for improvement in tuning for the future.
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Hey Doc, You haven't answer my question! ;-)
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Question about MAFT-Pro software update: can I update software (firmware) in the future myself? (using PC with some cable maybe?) or should I send it to manufacturer for update?
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Question about MAFT-Pro software update: can I update software (firmware) in the future myself? (using PC with some cable maybe?) or should I send it to manufacturer for update?
so, what are the basic functions of the unit- meaning before you add any of those extra goodies what will just the basic unit do without any additions to it?
can the boost control solenoid and the MAP/IAT/Harness be purchased from you? or should that be bought elsewhere?
can the boost control solenoid and the MAP/IAT/Harness be purchased from you? or should that be bought elsewhere?
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kikdurazz said:
the AFM signal clamp is meant as a more "advanced" tuning technique....eventually i'll write somehing up on it...
kikdurazz said:
FCO will get moved based on tuning- lean it out (remove AFM signal) and FCO moves up. how far depends on your setup.
as with all AFM scaling devices, it's near impossible to quantify the changes made to timing based on % AFM scale. a good rule of thumb is nothing larger than 25%.
kikdurazz said:
it's mid-way down the list....in theory it SHOULDN'T be too hard, but we'll see.
kikdurazz said:
wiring is no more difficult than a SAFC install.
the A/F control is meant to have a WB permanently installed in your car.
kikdurazz said:
not a problem. sounds like you're moving more towards the standalone territory than anything. it also sounds like you need to do some reading on basic tuning/function of the systems in a MKIII....you're on dangerous ground, if you're unsure or not clear on anything it's best to see a local shop.