The MkIII Photo Dictionary! Lets do it
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suprabad said:
It's far worse than that. Take a look a the Internet itself. Back during the .com boom, people invested MILLIONS in companies that laid down all the dark fiber that that has been used to provide today's bandwidth. When those companies went under during the .com crash, that dark fiber was bought, it most case, for PENNIES on the dollar. The only reason you can have T-1 like speeds for the low prices you see today is because you are riding on the backs of people who lost millions of dollars.
This is not a sustainable business model.
At some point, that .com era surplus of bandwidth is going to run out. And at that point today's internet providers will be faced with the harsh reality that the public seems to think that the value proposition of the Internet only works when you provide service to the public at 1/10th of what it really costs to provide it.
The online TSRM is the same way. For example: Jetjock owns a TSRM. I own a TSRM. When the two of us use the online version, it's a convenience. But we paid the admission price. When people who don't own a TSRM use it, they are, for all intents and purposes, stealing from Toyota.
At some point the book will no longer be published. Lack of sales will be the reason cited. And when something happens to the website (lawsuit, owner can't afford to pay the bandwidth load, owner gets tired of it, etc...) there won't be another option. Because you people removed Toyota's reason for publishing it. Old copies will become worth a lot of money.
Listen, all of this has not happened before in history. The Internet is a unique thing, and it's suffering from ailments that most of you don't realize or think about. (and is causing other problems you also don't realize or think about.) When the Internet as you know it goes away (And it will, it has to, it isn't financially viable) there is going to be one hell of a fucking mess.
There are some companies who have been seeing this coming for a long time. Google for example has been buying up dark fiber for years now. Massive amounts of it.
Back in 2005 Google hired a pair of very bright industrial designers to figure out how to cram the greatest number of CPUs, the most storage, memory and independant power support into a 20- or 40-foot box. We're talking about 5000+ Opteron processors and 3.5 petabytes of disk storage that can be dropped-off overnight by a tractor-trailer rig. The idea is to plant one of these puppies anywhere Google owns access to fiber, basically turning the entire Internet into a giant processing and storage grid.
While Google could put these containers anywhere, it makes the most sense to place them at Internet peering points, of which there are about 300 worldwide.
Five years ago Google had one data center. Two years ago they reported to have 64. In the near future, they will have 300-plus... The advantage to having so many data centers goes beyond simple redundancy and fault tolerance. They get Google closer to users, reducing latency. They offer inter-datacenter communication and load-balancing using that no-longer-dark fiber Google owns. But most especially, they offer super-high bandwidth connections at all peering ISPs at little or no incremental cost to Google.
Where some other outfit might put a router, Google is putting an entire data center, and the results are profound.
When the current Internet goes "bye bye" and is replaced by the web 2.0 companies like Google will own you.
Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, the people who have bought up the fiber, they will be important players in the next generation of the web. When it comes about it will be very different from what you are used to today. Free access to anything will be gone and Software as a Service will be the name of the game. You'll be paying for EVERYTHING you use. You'll be able to get a $25 PC because these companies have moved computing resources off individual PCs and onto the network. Your local machine will be a dumb terminal. Google, MS, Yahoo, they will own the processors, the applications, everything. Your day's of "sticking it to the man" are nearly over.
But just keep ignoring it. Keep thinking you can get something for nothing.
Feh... There are times when the naivety of folks just pisses me off.
I'm going to go do something else for the rest of today...
::grumble::
I can only laugh at what you've posted, Mike, for one very scary reason. I JUST FRIDAY had a very similar discussion with the director of IT here at SFCC, proposing exactly what you're saying - the web is going to lose it's 'free' status, because you can't run the infrastructure on nothing!
The web is going to get a massive makeover, and I think you'll see mainly Google and Microsoft duking it out - look at the strides Microsoft is making with it's Live! service. You're going to be paying a 'subscription fee' with microtransactions being their bread and butter. Meanwhile, Google is duking it out via an ad-based revenue system.
Live! is a huge beta test for M$'s business model - the guys at M$ aren't stupid.
I only wonder what Google is planning on bringing to the table (unless it ends up as Google providing the data service and infrastructure, with M$ handling the front end)
The web is going to get a massive makeover, and I think you'll see mainly Google and Microsoft duking it out - look at the strides Microsoft is making with it's Live! service. You're going to be paying a 'subscription fee' with microtransactions being their bread and butter. Meanwhile, Google is duking it out via an ad-based revenue system.
Live! is a huge beta test for M$'s business model - the guys at M$ aren't stupid.
I only wonder what Google is planning on bringing to the table (unless it ends up as Google providing the data service and infrastructure, with M$ handling the front end)
This thread got ugly quick, I own a TSRM but what was originally proposed while very similar to a TSRM still is not a TSRM, it's pictures taken by us, and information from either a TSRM, personal knowledge or some info fairy named doug bernstein.
I don't think the thread got ugly. Unless I mis-interpreted it, they were simply making true remarks about the state of the internet and copyright infringement.
I don't believe (but certainly correct me if I'm wrong) anybody was suggesting that creating a new reference site was a horrible idea. There will be no copies of TSRM literature in this reference site. There is already a TSRM which is great, this reference is not intended to replace it in any way, shape or fashion. I believe the original intent of the site was to provide a somewhat more visual index of parts on the car along with a simplified description of each parts' function.
The TSRM provides great step-by-step instructions to performing inspections and repairs. It also provides simplified illustrations. The reference site will provide images and write ups to further explain what each part is and where it is. I think it will be useful to some, though certainly not all.
I suggested that links be made to cross-reference relevant threads, along with applicable TSRM pages. Personally, I hate using the online TSRM, which is why I bought a hard copy. Beyond that, I have very strong personal feelings about all forms of intellectual property piracy.
I don't believe (but certainly correct me if I'm wrong) anybody was suggesting that creating a new reference site was a horrible idea. There will be no copies of TSRM literature in this reference site. There is already a TSRM which is great, this reference is not intended to replace it in any way, shape or fashion. I believe the original intent of the site was to provide a somewhat more visual index of parts on the car along with a simplified description of each parts' function.
The TSRM provides great step-by-step instructions to performing inspections and repairs. It also provides simplified illustrations. The reference site will provide images and write ups to further explain what each part is and where it is. I think it will be useful to some, though certainly not all.
I suggested that links be made to cross-reference relevant threads, along with applicable TSRM pages. Personally, I hate using the online TSRM, which is why I bought a hard copy. Beyond that, I have very strong personal feelings about all forms of intellectual property piracy.
Burntz said:
Burntz, I have been a little too busy to actually put my own write-up together. Once somebody sends me one, I can create a page using the templates I made.
Basically everything on my end is ready to go, I just need some content. I will still try to write up a topic myself, but time has not yet allowed that.
If you (or anybody else) want to send me the first topic, it will take me no time at all to build the page.
Burntz said:awesome
sorry my life has been HECTIC lately. trying to find some time to run my mkIII over to matts and work on it lol.
Well, I am just waiting to get my head and turbo back and mine will be all done (for the moment, of course).
OK, guys, I still haven't received any part write-ups... If you guys really want to make this a reality, start sending them in. I have done a fair amount of work, and have a few templates that are ready to use.
I hate to be pessimistic, but I fail to see how we are going to make a comprehensive guide without the support and determination of many people. I volunteered to do the web design/programming because it is my area of expertise. I can contribute in that way much more than in doing actual write ups.
I hate to be pessimistic, but I fail to see how we are going to make a comprehensive guide without the support and determination of many people. I volunteered to do the web design/programming because it is my area of expertise. I can contribute in that way much more than in doing actual write ups.
Come on guys don't let the Mk3 apathy kill this idea you were all gungho at the start now step up and make it a reality.
im sorry dugums and IJ lol, been so busy lately. shit im barely at home. my friend finally got his engine swapped over in his DSM, so once we swap out the fuel pump, ill be parking my supra in his garage and pulling shit apart. should be tomorrow 
Hey, do we still need stock engine pics for this? (I read thru the first 5 pages or so then skipped to the end)
I've got a stock-looking '88 turbo that, that isn't really clean, but could be cleaned up a little for pics. And I'd love to be a part of this! Also, my mother is a professional photographer and printer, so I've got some really bitchin photo resources at hand.
The car's got a few small problems, so we would probably still need a pic here or there from someone else (for instance, the fan shroud is missing, but I can take a bunch of high-res engine-in pics and send them off to anyone who wants them. I also might be able to get a friend to let me throw her up on a lift and get some undercarriage shots as well, but that would take longer.
The only thing I really can't do is start taking shit apart to get better shots. Though I have no serious objections to it, I do a lot of driving and the Supra's the only car I own.
Shoot me off an email if we still need pics, and exactly what you'd want if we do. I could probably get them shot and emailed tonight if I heard back from someone (Burntz, Supracentral, Dugums, etc). Hell, you can even call my cell phone if you want (518-495-1508)...
We really need to get this thing off the ground, it's gonna be great!
I've got a stock-looking '88 turbo that, that isn't really clean, but could be cleaned up a little for pics. And I'd love to be a part of this! Also, my mother is a professional photographer and printer, so I've got some really bitchin photo resources at hand.
The car's got a few small problems, so we would probably still need a pic here or there from someone else (for instance, the fan shroud is missing, but I can take a bunch of high-res engine-in pics and send them off to anyone who wants them. I also might be able to get a friend to let me throw her up on a lift and get some undercarriage shots as well, but that would take longer.
The only thing I really can't do is start taking shit apart to get better shots. Though I have no serious objections to it, I do a lot of driving and the Supra's the only car I own.
Shoot me off an email if we still need pics, and exactly what you'd want if we do. I could probably get them shot and emailed tonight if I heard back from someone (Burntz, Supracentral, Dugums, etc). Hell, you can even call my cell phone if you want (518-495-1508)...
We really need to get this thing off the ground, it's gonna be great!
We still need everything - so get those pictures!
If you outbound email doesn't limit file size, send them to suprainfo@douglasdowd.com. Otherwise, you can upload them to a hosting service (flickr, imageshack etc.) and send me the link.
If you outbound email doesn't limit file size, send them to suprainfo@douglasdowd.com. Otherwise, you can upload them to a hosting service (flickr, imageshack etc.) and send me the link.
I'll do my best to get the pics tonight... it should be doable. I'll aim to get some seriously high-res images, and just let you scale them down as you like. Unless you have a specific res in mind that you'd like, then I'll just shoot them at a high res and shrink them a bit in photoshop before I send them out.
I currently use yahoo for my email, so I'm limited to 10 megs per email, but I've got no limit on storage, so I'll just send as many emails as it takes to get them to you.
Either way, pics or no, expect to hear from me tonight sometime.
I currently use yahoo for my email, so I'm limited to 10 megs per email, but I've got no limit on storage, so I'll just send as many emails as it takes to get them to you.
Either way, pics or no, expect to hear from me tonight sometime.
Neo thanks
I'm taking my car to my friends tonight to start tearing it down, and you best believe we'll have alot of pictures
And i'll try to do some write-ups, but I dont feel extremely comfortable with them, because I know i'll prolly leave out things and possibly be wrong on others, so if I do , id like IJ or Doward or Jetjock or Supracentral to edit em lol
I'm taking my car to my friends tonight to start tearing it down, and you best believe we'll have alot of pictures
And i'll try to do some write-ups, but I dont feel extremely comfortable with them, because I know i'll prolly leave out things and possibly be wrong on others, so if I do , id like IJ or Doward or Jetjock or Supracentral to edit em lol
Well, I'll be leaving work shortly and was going to head home to take the pics, but a thunderstorm just rolled in, so it looks like no pics tonight unless it clears up pretty quickly. Either way, I'll let you guys know.
Sorry about not getting the pics taken and sent out yet, the weather here has been really shitty the last few days. Today, however, is gorgeous, so if I can get out of work at a decent time, I'll get them off to you this evening.