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bobpogoman

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lmao :1zhelp: ok ij there is NO sound in cylinder 5, only in 4, air is going out of it...nothing in rad, but i hear the noise in filler cap and turbo outlet hole on block...
 

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and the low compression in cylinder 6, but there was oil on some maybe lot of oil (spark plug covered) in 1 2 3 so 145 compression (as i remember) then 456 they had less oil so the compression is low, but normal due to the engine break-in?

so theres lot of chances im just dyslexic and removed that real hard to remove turbo,manifold etc... for nothing and it was just my catch can :O?

ima pressure test all cylinders to be 100% sure, but if they all do the same, the hg is o.k.?
 

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if the oil was moca color that is no good....

I still think a pressure test is pointless Untill breaking is compleated...someone please tell me im not crazy.
 

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Bob: Did you leave the Oil overnight to see if any coolant seperated from it?

Goon: #6 being so low in comparison to the others makes a leakdown a valid test in this instance to try and pinpoint where it's leaking.

If it were between #5 and #6 that would tell us it's the HG 100%

If it were leaking into either manifold that would tell us it's a valvetrain issue.

As it is it sounds like the HG is leaking into the crankcase as he can hear it at the turbo drain.

Personally I'd block any and ALL holes in the motor and leave the Oil filler cap off and listen there.

Marc: LOL I can read a little but seriously end up mangling the language if I try to write it ;)
(using an online translator helps a little but the syntax is always off and I sound like a tard)
 

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gaboonviper85;1086853 said:
if the oil was moca color that is no good....

I still think a pressure test is pointless Untill breaking is compleated...someone please tell me im not crazy.

how can he break in if there is coolant in the oil. oil don't turn that color unless it's mixed with water or coolant. or left in a hella' humid area for a long time
 
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oh I compleatly believe the headgasket needs redone! It's just that he keeps focusing on pressure testing when he needs to focus on the gasket...I think he is getting to far ahead of himself and just wants to run the car...he needs to slow down and tackle one issue at a time....put the aircompressor away and forget it till he fixed his first problem.
 

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No the compressor is part of the diagnosis steps.

I outlined the sequence the other day and with everyone jumping in and posting steps have been missed. (ie: did any coolant seperate from the oil)

There is a method to my maddness but I need the info asked for.
 

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gaboonviper85;1086928 said:
oh I compleatly believe the headgasket needs redone! It's just that he keeps focusing on pressure testing when he needs to focus on the gasket...I think he is getting to far ahead of himself and just wants to run the car...he needs to slow down and tackle one issue at a time....put the aircompressor away and forget it till he fixed his first problem.

so, he should do the copper sealant trick, retourque the head at 80 FOOT POUNDS, then see if he had any other problem. which i doubt,but then again...
oh, and fix that god damn catch can that does sweet puck all!
 

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IJ.;1086937 said:
No the compressor is part of the diagnosis steps.

I outlined the sequence the other day and with everyone jumping in and posting steps have been missed. (ie: did any coolant seperate from the oil)

There is a method to my maddness but I need the info asked for.

oh my bad...I figured sense he already said he got coolant on the headgasket mateing surface then it was a waist to even bother with all this...sorry bout that IJ.
 

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lol ya i want to run the car, but i wont run it till it will be fixed. and, i wont remove the head if its not the problem, anyway here are the results of the pressure test:

there was always some sound in turbo oil return hose and filler cap, on all cylinders.But, the compressor has been able to build 100psi ez on cylinder 1-5.

NO sound at all in he rad at 100psi.

cylinders 1-5 dont leake newhere else than the cap/oil line.

cylinder 6 is the prob, some air goes from cylinder 6 and come out of the cylinder 4. i can also ear lot of air noise in the intake manifold when the thorttle is open. But, nothing in the radiator. there is same as all other, some in filler cap and turbo line. the compressor havnt been able to build the 100psi, maybe it could be able but takes really long time.

what this mean?

for the oil its still in the same recipient, but not translucide, its gray but ill try to take some with a cup and see if i can see some coolant.
 

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Yes but coolant on the HG doesn't explain why only 1 cylinder was so far down on the Comp test hence the leakdown test so we could see if it was maybe a valvetrain issue.

It's no use tearing into it to correct a suspected leaking HG if it has a bent or badly shimmed valve.
 

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It's bizarre that you can hear #6 leaking into #4???

Marc: Ever made salad dressing?

Oil and vinegar shake them up and they mix let it sit and it seperates.

Oil and Coolant do the same.

If it's not seperating out I'd guess that the Mocha colour is just filth,varnish and crap from inside the engine mixing with the Oil.
 

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ya but the cylinder 4 wasnt leaking in any.. weird.. for the oil, it dosent look like moka, but weird olor, and after a night of sitting theres no separated coolant...

and btw the head and block has been cleaned with a kind of acid.. so they r clean inside... but im in break in so it makes more shit in oil...

here is the oil in a clen recipient :p

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bobpogoman

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btw the oil was brand new, when the prestone got in the ancient oil, i torques the arps and changes the oil, then did 15 mins of idle, and 2-3 mins of rolling...