bhg, after bhg?

supramang

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bobpogoman;1085022 said:
i bought a hkg 2.0 stopper mhg,

and IJ, ull find this idiot but my friend torqued it firstly with a 3/8 drive torque wrench wich is in in-lbs instead of ft-lbs and when he completed it i added coolant, and it was leaking out of engine, so yes the viton thing is contamined with prestone, i didnt thought it could hurt the gasket :S

so what do you suggest me? remove the head, clean it (with what?) and for the hg? dont you want me to remove the viton thing and use a sealer?

Dang sorry man but i think its time to start over:(
 

gaboonviper85

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bobpogoman;1086199 said:
poodle what can i do with this? put a breather on the can?? put only one hose on the can for the 2 valve covers, and let the other hole open?

but this cant cause the oil on the plugs?

Catch cans have an in and out port...you need to T the two valve cover lines into 1 line forming a Y...plug the single line into one port on the can...then run another line from the can into the acordian hose...

If this motor is a fresh rebuild the compression checking is usually off Untill the rings have set...and from what I understand the motor should be warm while doing a compression check...so route your pcv system either back to stock or correctly route your catch can.

And another thing...if the friend that torqued the head wrong also helped rebuild this motor I would pull the motor and go over the whole thing again.
 

bobpogoman

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lmao bah we didnt rebuilted the engine, the machine shop did it... we just assembled block//head and put the engine back in car...

i just made a pressure test with the compressor, only in cylinder 6 tho.... here are the results..

ive put 100lbs in the cylender 6, by cylinder 6 i mean the one close to firewall... cylinder 1 is closer to timing belt, then 2 is the second from timing belt etc...

ive put the engile in tdc (valves closed) and with the 100 lbs, there seem to be some vacuum in cylinder 4..? maybe im blind and its just pressure, but looks like vacuum... and, when i rotate the engine, theres air going out of each other cylinders one by one...

i dont ear any sound from the intake and exhaust manifold,
i dont ear any sound from the rad,

but there is some sound coming from the hole where the big hose under the turbo goes (oil return i think) since the turbo is off, im 100% sure it comes from here.

i can also ear the same sound from the oil fillin cap.


results are? remove head ans get copper spray?

btw: thanks guyes for helping me, i didnt wanted to ask help to my friend :O since im not a mechanic, but im kinda doing well.
 

bobpogoman

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oh and by the way, with blown or worn rings on cylinder 6, it wouldnt do exactly what im saying? compression in the oil pan, so air go out from all oil spots...
 

gaboonviper85

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it's all good bud...you Frenchmen are some silly fuckers LOL :)

You hear air from the turbo oil lines and oil cap because your piston rings haven't been broken in...air is pushing past them which is normal on a new motor....you need to break the motor in so the rings will seal then go threw a leak down test/compression test...you said air didn't come out the rad which is awesome!

Your rings may seem blown but it's just because they are new and need to be run...."usually"

If you want more help you can pm me and if you can talk better English than type I'll give you my #
 

bobpogoman

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and by the way, one of my friend told me, that the cylinder is supposed to go down when i put 100 lbs, but it dosent, and when i rotate the engine with my wrench, air come out of thers cylinders one by one....
 

marc3

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bob, si tu veut te mettre une catch can, mais la comme il faut.
comme ij a dit, tu es chanceux de pas avoir fait sauté un seal de cam ou crank!
la vrai et meilleur facon es comme ca!
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IJ.

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It depends if the piston is at TDC or not, if it's slightly off there's enough force to act on the conrod as a lever and send it down but at true TDC the force has 0 leverage so will stay put.

Could you hear any hiss in #5 plughole?

Your non PCV system would have made it smoke like a bitch for sure.
 

bobpogoman

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IJ.;1086805 said:
It depends if the piston is at TDC or not, if it's slightly off there's enough force to act on the conrod as a lever and send it down but at true TDC the force has 0 leverage so will stay put.

Could you hear any hiss in #5 plughole?

hmm at tdc? i dont think but i will do it again quickly, but when i rotate the enigne i can ear it and there is pressure in each cylinders 1 by one (with 100psi in the 6th)

brb..

pis marc merci pour ton croquis, jai compris le principe asteur :p mais la hose au thorttle body est necessaire? eux y disent seulement dans la accordian pipe.. sa fais un mega detour sinon..
 

marc3

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bobpogoman;1086807 said:
eux y disent seulement dans la accordian pipe.. sa fais un mega detour sinon..

comment un mega detour? le croquis montre que la catchcan es a coté du throttle body. tu devrait mettre ta can du coté de l'intake, comme ca les vapeurs d'huile peuvent condensé et resté dans ta can.
la facon que tu la installé es completement inutile!! pas de ventilation, pas de condensation, t'aurait ete mieux de pas en mettre du tout!
 

gaboonviper85

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the piston may not move if at true top dead center...and when you turn the crank it WILL push air out of the spark plug holes on the compression strokes....so no worries!

And yes a blocked pcv will make the motor smoke...but the air puffs you hear while turning the crank is just cause the pistons are forceing air out the spark holes on compression strokes.
 

gaboonviper85

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marc3;1086817 said:
comment un mega detour? le croquis montre que la catchcan es a coté du throttle body. tu devrait mettre ta can du coté de l'intake, comme ca les vapeurs d'huile peuvent condensé et resté dans ta can.
la facon que tu la installé es completement inutile!! pas de ventilation, pas de condensation, t'aurait ete mieux de pas en mettre du tout!

yeah what he said!!