I deleted a couple of posts that consisted of nothing but name calling.
Tone it down a notch people.
Tone it down a notch people.
Why I ditched my 7MGTE and went 2JZ NAT with AEM
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I paid $300 for my 2J-GE, and then $300 for shipping from Chicago to Alabama.
If he had been local...
Someone in Chicago could have picked it up from him for $300.
If he had been local...
Someone in Chicago could have picked it up from him for $300.
ok say you went with a 2jz-gte and it came with the stock turbos and everything. would that be able to perform as well stock as a GE with a single setup and the stock intake mani? if you go with the gte your already getting turbos, a FFIM, a better ignition system plus it already has lower compression. would it be worth spending the extra money on a gte from the beging? or getting a ge then buying all the aftermarket stuff?
no - its not worth the money to buy a 2jzgte. You can get a 2jzge, a head gasket, AEM, Ignition, coil packs, 1jz bell housing, low-end single turbo and single manifold for about 3200 bucks. Alot of vendors want about 3k for a 2jzgte, and most gte owners go big single anyway for big HP. Whats the point?
I'm actually awaiting this build. I think it'll be interesting, myself. Going to run a 3mm or so head gasket, to lower the CR of the GE down to really run some boost, hm?
btw, it took Mike spiking somewhere over 36psi of boost to finally weaken a stock 7M rod enough to fail.
Two words on why this build holds a little interest -
Quench.
Area.
btw, it took Mike spiking somewhere over 36psi of boost to finally weaken a stock 7M rod enough to fail.
Two words on why this build holds a little interest -
Quench.
Area.
HOLY F$%#!!!! You are doin Litterally the exact same thing that I am. lol Im still in the proccess of getting the bell housing and other tidbits together tho. Only i was going to try to use the MKIII engine harness. it would seem most of the connectors are the same or can be spliced and you should be able to use the 7MGTE specific AEM EMS. Then jsut configure it for what you need. Are you planning on staying MAF or are you changing to Speed Dens?
Doward said:
Why dont you tell that to all of the 2jzgeT MKIVs and Lexus rides that will ANNHIALIATE your supposed 600hp 7m built with stock rods? LOL
cruzinbill said:
Yes this really is the way to go....
Just use a NA harness from a lexus etc. I guess you could use a 7m harness if you already had an EMS...... I just prefer going with a newer harness because the 2j EMS is easier to come by AND my old 7M harness was brittle in places like the CPS etc and I didnt want to repair it/adapt it to all of the 2j block stuff.
I dont have AC so I really dont care what EMS I use. I heard that the TT EMS in a NA car works but renders the AC unusable for some reason. Either way it doesnt really matter to me. Im sure I can work out the trivials like the tach and fuel pump relay, etc etc......
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This is a very interesting concept. I ran a 7mge-t, with a stock ct-26, stock 440s, stock I/c. Only mods were i/c hardpipes, full 3in, intake, and piggyback fuel computer. The only problem you'll run into with the ge would be the high compression. Even with a 3mm HG, high compression isn't the easiest thing to tune. I learned the hard way, blowing the head gasket then spinning a rod bearing. However, 7mge-t / 2jzge-t are great alternatives, as long as the person is experienced with high compression/boost.
I'd recommend a 7mge-t over a 2jzge-t just due to the price.
na-t Dave
I'd recommend a 7mge-t over a 2jzge-t just due to the price.
na-t Dave
86supra7mge-t said:
Well if you plan on staying under 500 HP I think you are right Dave. But, as most of us are, 500 peak hp isnt going to be enough:evil2:
The high compression can be fixed with a 2.5 - 2mm head gasket and the hardware, if measured to be in spec, is completely re-usable. Depending on your application, a HG will fix the CR at 8:5 to 1 which is, coincidentally, the same CR as the TT block. The pistons are made of the EXACT SAME MATERIAL.
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figgie said:
I'm not getting into this mess of a thread except to say that 5 of Wills motors were installed in either mine or Eric Varah's garages. (Will was living in an apartment during the timeframe you are talking about...)
And not all those motors were melted pistons. I pulled and inspected more than one. You are spreading disinformation with this particular statement. I know for a fact you weren't there, because *I* was. And Will did more than melt pistons. My old garage has the oil stains to prove it from the times he put rods through the bottom of the pan...
It's a small crowd here in the ATL. There are few Supra's in this town that I haven't spun a wrench on...
bountykilla0118 said:
you have to get lucky and be in the right place at the right time. I dealt with a comany that got me a 71K mile Sc300 2JZGE with everything (ecu, wiring harness, manifolds, flywheel, pumps, alternator) for 650 shipped.
Check out R&J Distriubting on Clublexus.com ...they're great. I had the engine in two days.
Those links for ebay that I posted earlier closed - the engine went for 1k dollars which, IMO, is too much money. You can find them much cheaper if you just look around.
I found a Q45 TB at a junkyard away from the city for 45 bucks and it came with the TPS. You just have to LOOK.
I found a Q45 TB at a junkyard away from the city for 45 bucks and it came with the TPS. You just have to LOOK.
this is quite an interesting idea. im going to keep a close look at this, and maybe pick up a 2jzge and throw on a xspower NA-T kit. all in total, under 3500 in parts to get a reliable 350-450 WHP out of my supra is definately FTW.
foreverpsycotic said:
Im pretty sure you can boost a stock block w/no drop in compression up to about 350 hp. I didnt really look at this but you could at www.clubna-t.com - a lot more guys do this stuff there.. Either way at 350 hp with a high CR you would have a very responsive powerful engine that is very fun to drive!
the nice thing about going 2jzge-t is that you could make the IC piping and IC for the 7m-GTE work. you could reuse the turbo if it is a t4 as well.
2JZ NA-T FTW, I didn't realize that you were the guy off clubna-t.com until just now, good luck with your build!
hottscennessey said:
That's where I got mine too. I wanted one with a W58 so I had to pay a bit more but it was $1000 shipped with complete engine, trans, harness and ECU.
Take a look in the other thread - there is a guy that says he has he has made a consistent 600+ hp with his 7M with stock internals. He says he is going to turn up his AEM and 1k injectors with a GT42 and see if it grenades or takes the punishment....
Perhaps running the stock block and just doing JDM swaps if something goes wrong may be a better bet for those that already have a 7M setup?
Perhaps running the stock block and just doing JDM swaps if something goes wrong may be a better bet for those that already have a 7M setup?