Why does everyone underestimate the MKIII?
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selfinfliction;923492 said:
Why do you think it makes someone with a nice car more upset to be beaten by someone in a beat up car? Even if you smoke them, their first comment is going to be "who cares", you car looks like poop. Guys with really fast, nice cars rarely race; they have nothing to prove. Different strokes for different folks, good luck on your build. You doing a 7M or JZ setup?
suprarcr89
The Juggernaut has my old
myself I like a very nice car that is fast... nothing wrong with having both in one car.... I agree with what was said earlier alot of reasons people underestimate the mkiii is because about 75% of them on the road look like crap... and run like crap...
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casing said:
honestly?
1) 90% of them are beat to death
2) 99.860784% of their owners are immature, negligent, young, and careless kids who just want to go fast.
3) it's a 20 year old car. MAINTAIN it first, MODIFY it last. once you have a perfect base to start with, THEN mod it.
4) 99.860784% of their owners are immature, negligent, young, and careless kids who just want to go fast.
5) 90% are beat to death.
6) people are stupid.
i think that covers most of it.
casing;923241 said:
Misinformation isn't necessarily disrespect. Some people have asked if it was front wheel drive, because it is a Toyota.
On another note, it is a luxury GT that happens to have a strong engine. You want a real sports car? Pony up for the JZA80.
Nick M;923985 said:
Not to toss gas on the fire but, if the MKIII and the MKIV are both only luxo GT cars. One just happens to have a better overbuilt motor. IMO a sports car would be a Porsche car or a Lotus.
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Front is much the same rear is "different" don't know about "better" though the Mk3 is pretty damn good for a production car and it's one of the main reasons I bought mine.
Factory tests put he stock MKIII at .89G on the skidpad and the stock MKIV at .98G, a considerable difference.
However the MKIV is lighter and comes from the factory with considerably wider tires. Also with the MKIV there was more of a focus in the reduction of unsprung weight.
With all that said, comparably equipped MKIII's and MKIV's with the same sized tires on aftermarket rims tend to handle about the same. The primary difference being the weight of the cars.
In other words, you can make both cars handle about the same. If you can trim some of the fat off the MKIII and get it down to MKIV weight, the cars handle almost identically.
Anyone who tells you a MKIII can't handle is ignorant.
However the MKIV is lighter and comes from the factory with considerably wider tires. Also with the MKIV there was more of a focus in the reduction of unsprung weight.
With all that said, comparably equipped MKIII's and MKIV's with the same sized tires on aftermarket rims tend to handle about the same. The primary difference being the weight of the cars.
In other words, you can make both cars handle about the same. If you can trim some of the fat off the MKIII and get it down to MKIV weight, the cars handle almost identically.
Anyone who tells you a MKIII can't handle is ignorant.
I don't really have any problems with people being disrespectful after they see my car ... In fact everybody and there dog wants to race until they see it .. I think its all how you carry yourself and how you represent the car... most of my friends are domestic guys but they all respect the car ... Of course there will always be the generalizations from the uneducated and thats when you have the opportunity to shine and either you prove them right and do nothing or simply educate them...
In my opinion on the best mods you can do is the most over looked by the MK3 crowd ..
Clean is FREE!!!! inside and out all you have to do is CARE
Jason
In my opinion on the best mods you can do is the most over looked by the MK3 crowd ..
Clean is FREE!!!! inside and out all you have to do is CARE
Jason
Clueless;924135 said:
From the sales brochures:
3530 1989 Supra Turbo 5 Speed
3613 1989 Supra Turbo 5 Speed w/ Sport Roof
No weight listed 1997 Supra Turbo 6 Speed
3505 1997 Supra Turbo 6 Speed w/ Sport Roof
buzzbomber;923332 said:
I really don't see why people make it sound like MKIII's are so heavy. I think they may have been underpowered for their weight when stock, but my car tips the scales at 3650. A Camaro of the same year was 3500ish depending on model. My 98 Z28 weighed 3450. new mustangs go about 3700-3900. The only car which I know a lot of people like to talk shit about are the 5.0 mustangs which could weigh as little as 3100 (LX notchback with power nothing).If any one tries to compare the Supra to an RX7 of similar age, they should realize the RX7 was always basically designed in 3/4 scale to save weight. Put a 3000GT or 300Z TT on a scale and see what they're crushing the pavement at. When Toyota was designing the Supra back in the early 80's their design target was a Porsche 928 at half the price.
Build the car right, let people talk shit, smoke em on the street, then tell um...... STFU.