what does 70mph, rain, and a wall get you?

b005t3d

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more pix of the tear down from today
 

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kwnate

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Supracentral said:
And I'll tell you that truck driver is 100% at fault. When driving big rigs you don't operate in the here and now, you operate in the future. Everything is looking ahead, and identifying potential hazards long before you get there. There are way too many "cowboys" out there who use the truck as a tool of intimidation. And that's not right when you are driving an 80,000 deadly weapon.

That guy should have slowed down, period.
True you look ahead, but when someone takes away what looks like clear sailing and slows down, your options are not the same as a car. Downshifting isn't always an option immediately and slamming on the brakes doesnt do much for you. For all any of us know he could have been slowing down, but too much brakes in the rain could spell disaster. Tap a car, or lose control of 80,000lbs. Both not good options.

I'm sure supracentral that you realize that things happen quickly and sometimes a you can make the wrong choice and something like this happens. You just don't know the circumstances from the truck driver... What if the truck driver says he gave him 3 car lengths then slowed down and 3 seconds later he tapped the car? It's a one sided story and you know that something like 80% of wrecks with semis are caused by cars. Not everyone realizes what a safe distance is for semis until one plows into there ass.

I was going down the freeway one day in my dumptruck, no trailer, no load. Clear sailing, no cars in front of me. Car lost control and cut across the freeway, another car pulls in front of me and slows down doesn't stop just slows, I slammed on the brakes at 60mph (dry pavement) and skid into the back of a car as it was still traveling 40mph. I was not found at fault.

There are those long haul drivers out there that are crazy though! I saw a couple coming down outta the rockies in montana. Fucking insane.
 

b005t3d

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Supracentral

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kwnate said:
I'm sure supracentral that you realize that things happen quickly and sometimes a you can make the wrong choice and something like this happens.

I'll tell you, from my perspective behind the wheel, I always assume that "that damned 4-wheeler" (car) is going to do something stupid. I always give myself an out (the ability to change lanes, or slow down) when being passed by a car, especially in bad weather.

Nobody is 100% perfect, but simply put, the guy was going too fast.

Do you guys realize what the stopping distance for a fully loaded tractor trailer is on dry pavement from 70 mph? It's over 700 ft - that's more than a 1/8 mile. In the rain that distance can go up 50% or more. If you are running at a speed where your stopping distance is over 1,000 ft, you are going too damned fast.

Of the many years I've spent driving, 3 of those years was as an over the road driving instructor, I've seen it all. In the end that driver is responsible. Too fast for conditions period.
 

b005t3d

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well boys, looks like the only thing bent badly in the frint is the fframe pieces that attach to the front bumper. might be able to be pulled. who knows? i know the back is going to be a beotch. gonna have to have that rear quarter cut and welded.
 

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Sorry to hear about the accident. I agree about taking all the precautions now about damages to yourself and the car, argue for everything you can.

I worked at a gas station awhile ago and we were the only station with Diesel pumps off the highway, so we got very large trucks in quite often.
We had 14 pumps, with the last 2 being diesel.
When I went to empty the trash at the pumps I would get mostly newspapers, coffee cups, and wrappers in all the pumps but the diesel ones. That trash can was FULL of empty alcohol bottles and beer cans.
Now I'm not stereotyping anyone. But it made me sick and very uneasy to be driving on the road with these 80,000lbs+ machine's driven by liquered up drivers.

Rigs have always interested me and I'd love to learn to drive them. I respect all you guys that have the experiance. Thats a really nice Trailer Supracentral.
 

1TuffSupra

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MassSupra89 said:
Sorry to hear about the accident. I agree about taking all the precautions now about damages to yourself and the car, argue for everything you can.

I worked at a gas station awhile ago and we were the only station with Diesel pumps off the highway, so we got very large trucks in quite often.
We had 14 pumps, with the last 2 being diesel.
When I went to empty the trash at the pumps I would get mostly newspapers, coffee cups, and wrappers in all the pumps but the diesel ones. That trash can was FULL of empty alcohol bottles and beer cans.
Now I'm not stereotyping anyone. But it made me sick and very uneasy to be driving on the road with these 80,000lbs+ machine's driven by liquered up drivers.

Rigs have always interested me and I'd love to learn to drive them. I respect all you guys that have the experiance. Thats a really nice Trailer Supracentral.

OK well it makes me hella nervous to know that (about the liquor)!! Im sure not all of them are like that, but if thats your first hand experience working at a truck stop it definitely is something to keep in mind.

And Ive always wanted to get behind a wheel of a big rig too. I dunno what it is about them, lol. +1 for you
 

b005t3d

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the easy way out hurts me very much. i dont care if a new shell would have my motor and all that shit in it. it still wouldnt be my car. i would rather do that though than not have a supra. but, time will tell. i think the frame can be pulled back into a respectable position but its still to early yet to tell.
 

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Unless he has access to a GOOD body shop with a GOOD JIG that knows how to use it and trust me they will charge to get it straight it's only ever going to be a bent pile of shit.......

You can't hit a unibody car diagonally like that and not tweak it.

He's already said he doesn't have the $$$ to repair it properly so another shell is the most cost effective way of getting it back on the road.
 

MassSupra89

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It's like breaking up with your first, but then finding a new girl with all the things you loved about the first. Your car will always be remembered but the new one will be better with work and time. Sorry if that was a bad comparison. I'm really tired.
 

b005t3d

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im already looking for a new shell. i think that may be my best bet aswell. but, like everyone that knows me keeps telling me, the next will be better than the first.