what does 70mph, rain, and a wall get you?

Allan_MA70

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There are just as many dick head car drivers! I to have my truck license and have spent many hours in the truck with my brother, your blatant stereo typing of truck drivers sickens me! are you going to start on Asian drivers next?

Grow up guys! use some common sense, why if the truck was already doing 70mph did you overtake him in the rain on a downhill?

I myself have called a company when I have seen a truck driver being a total dickhead, there is no excuse, shame some car drivers think they are excused from common sense as well!
 

Yellow 13

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All cars should have the "Hows my driving?" stickers with a phone #.


Anyways...Rear ending is rear ending. Unless you were like 2 car lengths in front of him and smashed the brakes (which you werent/didn't) I dont see why he couldnt have avoided you. He coudve merged into another lane at least to avoid you. To me it just sounds like he wasnt paying attention.
 

Allan_MA70

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Yellow 13 said:
All cars should have the "Hows my driving?" stickers with a phone #.


Anyways...Rear ending is rear ending. Unless you were like 2 car lengths in front of him and smashed the brakes (which you werent/didn't) I dont see why he couldnt have avoided you. He coudve merged into another lane at least to avoid you. To me it just sounds like he wasnt paying attention.


Go get your truck licence then come back and say that! Air brakes are like sticking it in reverse and dumping the clutch in wet weather its a very fine line at any speed between jack knifing it and slowing down! not fun at all!
 

Yellow 13

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Allan_MA70 said:
Go get your truck licence then come back and say that! Air brakes are like sticking it in reverse and dumping the clutch in wet weather its a very fine line at any speed between jack knifing it and slowing down! not fun at all!

The closest thing Ive driven to a semi is my dads Chevy 1500 with our 24ft trailer. I know its probally nowhere near the same.

My grandfather is a semi truck driver and my dad has his liscence and is going to start driving them so maybe Ill have a chance to see what its like.

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Moving on...


Whats the Semi truck doing 70 MPH down a wet hill for to begin with. In CA all trucks are advised 55 MPH max on hills in good weather. Probally slower in wet weather.


Instead of air brakes couldnt the truck driver have geared down or merged out of the way?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackknifing


Given the circumstances (high speed, wet road) I would say the trailer probally would've jackknifed under hard braking. I dont think hard braking wouldve been neccessary, but either way I still see it as the truck drivers fault, for not driving safer with the conditions being as they were.

Maybe he was just on a long shift and tired or daydreaming, or just couldnt stop in time. The fact is he still rear ended the supra.
 

ValgeKotkas

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Who cares, truck drivers or no truck drivers fault, the car is damaged.

Like my father always says : Remember that besides you there are very many other stupid drivers.
 

darkandroid1234

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IJ. said:
I don't see any evidence in those pics that the truck made contact?
I didn't see anything either, struck me funny as well.

I was thinking... Rain+Paint=wet smooth surface, rain+truck bumper=wet smooth surface, so that left me with... wet smooth surface+wet smooth surface=not much evidence....

-OR-

He's a lying, drunken, street racer who was drifting out on the highway in the rain to prove how JDM tyte he is and then swerved and had to bail into a gaurd rail to avoid hitting a bug cuz he didn't wanna fuck up his sweet paint job with like 5gallons of clearcoat on it or have it crack his windshield due to his immense speed :nono:

(no offense meant toward anyone here just trying to lighten things up with my "theory" :biglaugh: )

b005t3d: Shame on you for thinking you could out-drift a semi...
 

b005t3d

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IJ. said:
I don't see any evidence in those pics that the truck made contact?
i wasnt "slamed" into. like i said, i was taped. there is a big difference. when i was taped, the car started moving to the right like you set into a drift. ass end first. so, i tried to correct and ended up in the wall. coincidentally, on the same side i was taped by the truck.
look, im not saying truck driverw are all bad. i am often on long road trips and truckers are your best friend in the situation. but good trucker or not, there was no horn sounding, there was no visable effort to merge, warn me. by the way, the truck wasnt doing 70 when i passed him, he had just gotten on a prevouse on ramp and was probrably at 50 or 60 when i passed him.
 

b005t3d

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darkandroid1234 said:
b005t3d: Shame on you for thinking you could out-drift a semi...
i know, i know, should have fainted a bit more on the entry. ill get the werner truck next time though. f driftin a four wheel car, driftin 18 is the shit!!!
 

b005t3d

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92turbo4life said:
damn man sry to hear, thats one reason i dont drive in the rain!
i wouldnt be able to get away with not driving in the rain here in tn. it was bright and shiny 500 yards away from where i started to slide. it rains so sparatically here.
 

kntmikado

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Never driven a semi myself, but my dad spent 8-10 years driving 'em and says that even back when he was driving, you could hit the trailer brakes separately from the tractor brakes. Brakes in front = jacknife, maybe. Brakes in rear = not nearly as likely. I agree with Yellow13, wtf didn't he gear down at least?

Irresponsible. Unacceptable. Shameful. Also, unemployed. Werner doesn't tolerate that kind of crap, not with the reputation they have to maintain.

Also, I -always- pass semis and vehicles larger than myself when I can safely, ESPECIALLY in the rain. I don't want the extent of my visibility in adverse conditions to be limited to the lights on the huge trailer in front of me. If the vehicle slows down suddenly (I've had semis do it to me in the past, it SUCKS) it makes the situation a lot worse than if I'd been able to actually see what's going on. Probably not why boosted passed the truck in the first place, but still.

EDIT: Werner has GPS systems in its trucks, and can shut your truck down remotely to ensure that you follow work-hour regulations and don't drive when you're supposed to be off-duty resting/sleeping/etc. Giving them the time/date and location is all they need to find the driver and fire him so fast that NO reputable carrier will hire him.
 
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kwnate

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kntmikado said:
Never driven a semi myself, but my dad spent 8-10 years driving 'em and says that even back when he was driving, you could hit the trailer brakes separately from the tractor brakes. Brakes in front = jacknife, maybe. Brakes in rear = not nearly as likely. I agree with Yellow13, wtf didn't he gear down at least?
"Never driven a semi myself..." That's all you needed to say. You have absolutely no idea.
 

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I've had a Class A CDL with AXT endorsements (Air Brakes, Hazardous Materials, Triple Trailers) since 1986. I've driven more miles in a truck than most people will ever drive, and I've probably been driving longer than some of you have been alive... I've pulled double & triple trailers, including "turnpike doubles" (Two 48' trailers) on the NY State Thruway.

During over one million miles of driving, I've had TWO accidents in a truck. One was back in 1989 and the other driver was drunk and ran into the back of my truck at a traffic light. The other was in 1995 and the other driver was charged with failure to yeild (pulled out in front of me).

My drag team ran this rig for the last 2 years, and I've logged tens of thousands of miles in it:

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It's 78' from nose to tail (far larger than your average over the road truck) and one of the most challenging things I've ever driven. It has a turning radius of a football field and stops like an oil tanker... It carries two cars up top and one on the bottom, it's top heavy & awkward. When it comes to trucks, I've got the experience.

And I'll tell you that truck driver is 100% at fault. When driving big rigs you don't operate in the here and now, you operate in the future. Everything is looking ahead, and identifying potential hazards long before you get there. There are way too many "cowboys" out there who use the truck as a tool of intimidation. And that's not right when you are driving an 80,000 deadly weapon.

That guy should have slowed down, period.
 

darkandroid1234

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Supracentral said:
I'll tell you that truck driver is 100% at fault. When driving big rigs you don't operate in the here and now, you operate in the future. Everything is looking ahead, and identifying potential hazards long before you get there. There are way too many "cowboys" out there who use the truck as a tool of intimidation. And that's not right when you are driving an 80,000 deadly weapon.

That guy should have slowed down, period.


Damn Straight!!!
 

CPT Furious

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Werd, Mike. Nuff said. You can also relate that in pretty much any kind of motor vehicle whether its a car, truck, boat or airplane, you always need to be thinking ahead!
 

mazzer

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sucks to hear, but i think youre fucked.. theres no way to prove you were hit by that truck with no police reprort or witnesses. put a fork in that car cause that babys done!
 

b005t3d

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Supracentral said:
I've had a Class A CDL with AXT endorsements (Air Brakes, Hazardous Materials, Triple Trailers) since 1986. I've driven more miles in a truck than most people will ever drive, and I've probably been driving longer than some of you have been alive... I've pulled double & triple trailers, including "turnpike doubles" (Two 48' trailers) on the NY State Thruway.

During over one million miles of driving, I've had TWO accidents in a truck. One was back in 1989 and the other driver was drunk and ran into the back of my truck at a traffic light. The other was in 1995 and the other driver was charged with failure to yeild (pulled out in front of me).

My drag team ran this rig for the last 2 years, and I've logged tens of thousands of miles in it:

It's 78' from nose to tail (far larger than your average over the road truck) and one of the most challenging things I've ever driven. It has a turning radius of a football field and stops like an oil tanker... It carries two cars up top and one on the bottom, it's top heavy & awkward. When it comes to trucks, I've got the experience.

And I'll tell you that truck driver is 100% at fault. When driving big rigs you don't operate in the here and now, you operate in the future. Everything is looking ahead, and identifying potential hazards long before you get there. There are way too many "cowboys" out there who use the truck as a tool of intimidation. And that's not right when you are driving an 80,000 deadly weapon.

That guy should have slowed down, period.
im still just completely floored by the fact that all of this has happened. it took me a year to build an awesome, reliable car. took less than 15 seconds to destroy it. wether or not its a truck drivers neglegence or a mistake or whatever. fuckin blows that i have to start all over again...awesome trailor by the way.