Iphone, i called it.

Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE

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I hated the ipod i wish i had my money instead you have to download and install itunes which sucks bad then ontop of it you cant just put the music in a file and things go only one way with the ipod into it and never back out of it again it blows and since the iphone is slow as crap and cant stream video or music like mine im sure you cant get your information or music out of it just like the ipod so to me its another sucky gimik mac puts out in its desperate attempt not to fail.
 

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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE said:
I hated the ipod i wish i had my money instead you have to download and install itunes which sucks bad then ontop of it you cant just put the music in a file and things go only one way with the ipod into it and never back out of it again it blows and since the iphone is slow as crap and cant stream video or music like mine im sure you cant get your information or music out of it just like the ipod so to me its another sucky gimik mac puts out in its desperate attempt not to fail.

Yeah, does itunes suck ass or what! Apple is best for people who don't like to think, becuase if they thought about it, they would notice how limited their options are when using Apple products.
 

drunk_medic

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bigaaron said:
Yeah, does itunes suck ass or what! Apple is best for people who don't like to think, becuase if they thought about it, they would notice how limited their options are when using Apple products.

It's right there in their ad campaign : "It just works." That's the part they tell you. I find a bit of comfort in having complete control over my ripping and playback methods. I suppose the I-whatevers have their place, but people are paying A LOT more money for this item to simplify things that are not difficult to begin with. People don't want to learn - they just want to "go".
 

Ric

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I work for palm, i hear the tech support calls.. Peoeple are really that dumb. Trust me. You'll hear doctors and lawyers that don't even know how to enter a contact.

With apple, you pay for all the "features" to be removed so it's idiot proof. Instead of 10 ways to do a task, apple only gives you one.

With that idea, yeah, it limits the "techies" from buying it, but the sheep out number the wolves. Make it pretty and with flashy colors, you got yourself a gold mine.
 

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I found an image that pretty much sums it up:

iProduct.gif
 

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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE said:
I hated the ipod i wish i had my money instead you have to download and install itunes which sucks bad then ontop of it you cant just put the music in a file and things go only one way with the ipod into it and never back out of it again it blows and since the iphone is slow as crap and cant stream video or music like mine im sure you cant get your information or music out of it just like the ipod so to me its another sucky gimik mac puts out in its desperate attempt not to fail.


RockBox man, turns the Ipod into what it should have been. Though it's not just limited to apple. I've thrown Rockbox on all my Mp3 players I've owned so I could have ogg support as well as other things. I think that my iriver was the only one i didn't have to do that to.
 

dugums

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bigaaron said:
Yeah, does itunes suck ass or what! Apple is best for people who don't like to think, because if they thought about it, they would notice how limited their options are when using Apple products.

You're only partially right there. Apple IS great for people who don't like to think. Specifically with respect to their computers, they are easy to operate in general. By removing some of the complexities, it would also appear they had to lose some of the capabilities.

This is not in any way true. I buy music on iTunes and use it exclusively (on both my macs and pc's) for my music collection. Now, I know one limitation of this setup is the inability to use a monthly charge service in which you essentially 'rent' your music. I can't really say much about this, as I have never desired to have this type of service.

The biggest gripe I have heard though, is in relation to DRM. The fact that the iTunes store sells protected materials has nothing to do with the quality of Apple products. You can choose to buy mp3's from other online retailers. There are also programs that easily convert DRM protected music into mp3's quite easily. Beyond that, it is now possible to purchase unprotected songs from iTunes store. I don't own an iPod - I use USB flash cards for all of my music (works in the car, any computer, and I even have a portable player for it to plug in to).

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As a computer programmer, I have to use an array of operating systems in the course of the normal workday. There is no PC that allows me the functionality of the Intel-Based macs. Period.

I have OSX running on my dell M1210, but there are some big limitations. The biggest shortcoming is that OSX can only be used if you select it through a boot menu. I'm sure there are other pc's that can run OSX like the m1210, but there are not many. The reason the M1210 can do it is that it is similar in design to a macbook.

The best way to use multiple OS's is by utilizing virtualization software. XP and Vista can run parallels for windows or virtual pc, but they can only be used to emulate another windows system.

By using a mac with parallels, I can have full OSX, Vista, XP and linux capabilities without ever having to reboot. The next OS will even have this virtualization built in (you won't even have to buy software).

You guys think that macs are weak because they are easy-to-use. I disagree. I think Apple makes incredible machines. For the novice, yes they are easy to use. For advanced users, they can do MORE than a PC.

There is currently no reason to buy anything but an Apple computer. Those purchasing PC's are doing so to save a buck, or because they think it will be too difficult to learn OSX or how to run a virtual machine (and I'm not saying there is anything wrong that, I also have PC's). Many PC users are set in their ways, which is why they feel they need to bash Apple as hard as they do. I think those with a die-hard allegiance to PC's ought to ask themselves why, instead of thinking apple users are idiots who only buy them because they are "easy".
 

mkIIIman089

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dugums said:
There is currently no reason to buy anything but an Apple computer.
Now, I love Apple stuff. But you're never going to get bleeding edge gaming performance from one. I do all of my computing on my macbook pro, but when it comes to games... I have a dedicated XP rig for that.
 

dugums

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mkIIIman089 said:
Now, I love Apple stuff. But you're never going to get bleeding edge gaming performance from one. I do all of my computing on my macbook pro, but when it comes to games... I have a dedicated XP rig for that.

I will agree with that perspective - again - I am not anti-pc or even a die-hard apple fan.

I forget about gaming, as I don't use my computer for such things. When I am giving my opinions, I tend to stick only to what I know. It means my opinions might not be important or valid to some people, but at least I try not to talk shit about things I don't know or cast assumptions on a product I have never used.

As far as gaming capability, just from a technical standpoint (as I can't speak from experience) a PC offers more in both game availability and hardware. There are certainly many more options when it comes to graphics processors and the like.

With that in mind, I shouldn't have said "There is currently no reason to buy anything but an Apple computer". Certainly price is an important factor to many buyers, as is gaming capability.

The fact is, there are differences between PC's and Apples. The divide is shrinking, but certainly still exists. Different computers suit different people. The capabilities of one don't make the other bad or less desirable. The fact that someone may see apple's as "easy to use" doesn't make it right to criticize those who buy them.
 

Ric

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I'm reading phonescoop's forum about the iphone. God ppl are raping that phone a new asshole. I don't think there is a positive comment about it. The #1 complaint is, the thing drops calls left and right.