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  1. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Just tested the car. The good. All low speed grinding noises are gone. I have not tested for a very long distance .Now the not so good, as soon as i reach 60mkh and went up to 66kmh, there is same type of whine as the previous (4th) rebuild with the used gears, but 1/5th the loudness. It is a...
  2. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    It thought so at first, but at higher preload it was doing the same thing. I think I might have damaged some rollers while pressing in the pinion to the companion flange the first time. After I changed to another set of new bearings and very carefully installed them, no more clicking sounds...
  3. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    I pulled the pinion shim of 1.94mm and changed to 1.90mm. It looks better to me especially on the coast. The drive looks almost the same,. On the coast its a bit more spread out Pinion at 1.90mm I am leaning towards 1.90mm pinion shim. One additional problem appeared. It seems I probably...
  4. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    From RHD Japan always. I just checked the runout, it seems its still there, I think maybe the casing is the problem. Anyway. I got a backlash reading I then checked gear pattern. Left pic is previous pattern, right side new gears, both are with 1.94mm shim Close up of new drive pattern Coast...
  5. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    I didnt mean to post anything till I get my gear pattern, but something came up..as always. I received my gears today, and to my horror, there are two chipped areas on the pinion tooth. However I think this wont affect the pinions function or cause noise, notice the red lines i drew, they are...
  6. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Frankly, I can't tell thats anything wrong with it, just like the second rebuild. But there are bits of metal on the ring gear surface as well as the pinion. On pinion there are some gasket material I sanded off the diff case and some metal bits
  7. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Thanks dave, but I am pretty sure preload is not too high. I was very careful not to exceed the preload I set in the 3rd rebuild. In the 4th rebuild, the breakaway wasn't that much higher than rotating. I will be equally careful on this 5th rebuild.
  8. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Update, after roughly 700 km with no improvement and a lot of metal in the oil, I pulled the diff apart and decide to rebuild with new gears. My new gears are coming tomorrow. I pulled the diff off the car on Saturday the 8th of July. I removed the ring gear and did a runout check on the...
  9. alcyon

    Mk3 Supra diff and subframe design vs Mk4

    So I was looking at the mk4 subframe and how the diff is secured, and found that it is very similar to BMW way of doing things. On the Mk4, there are two horizontal bushings that go on the diff that attach to the subframe. This allows the diff to move up and down a little . The Prop shaft also...
  10. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Update, it's a week later, drove 35km to work and 35 km back Diff casing temp was 152 F. , and some short distances on the next day 5km to 15km . The noise has gone down in some conditions and went up in some. The whine/groan at 59kmh onwards is still there, but the high level of groan goes down...
  11. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Yes I hope so. I went for another drive which is a bit longer. 10km + 10km to the city center. parked and returned. It was a large highway so had to go at least 80kmh for 1km. The noise was loud at 59 kmh and kept getting louder and louder till 77 kmh, then after that to 80kmh, almost no sound...
  12. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    I got my used prop shaft and installed it with the diff. Just went for a test drive. A 7km trip to breakfast and 7km back home. There is a small amount of noticable noise. It is mostly on light acceleration over 35kmh. Its like a hum /whine. on decel at 60 to 20kmh its hardly makes any noise I...
  13. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    I did not disasmble the bearing, carrier or the pinion, i just removed companion flange, installed seal, oiled seal, and reinstall companion flange with new nut. The increase I measured is including the carrier, not pinion preload only. So I think the seal stiction is causing the increase in...
  14. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Ok looks like I now have one additional problem. Since preloads are good, I then removed companion flange to install the front seal. Oiled the lip, installed companion flange with new toyota Nut. Went 147ft lb, then used a breaker bar and got another 1/10th of a turn. Now I am measuring a total...
  15. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Yes max runout on ring gear was 0.07mm or 0.0027". Toyota says runout should not be more than 0.1mm or 0.0039", So i guess this is ok. I am going to take the risk and button up as is, as on previous rebuild, I had no clunk, then eventually the clunk came back after some time, I correlate with...
  16. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    The reason i think i can get away with it is.. As you can see many individual measurements are over the lowest limit of 0.13, So I dont think the gears will get stuck , and since this carrier preload is the same before, I think the backlash will open up again down the line, by not more than...
  17. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Final Backlash averages (out of all 41 tooth) out at 0.0048" (0.12mm), just a tiny bit under 0.005". Currently has 2.94mm on L, 2.88mm on R. I need 2.91mm shims on both sides to get the backlash to be at 0.0055" but I only have one 2.91mm shim. I think its ok as the rotation test is not noisy...
  18. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    5th June Pinion preload without seal Breakaway - 13inlb Rolling 7 in lb Total carrier shim 2.94+2.88 = 5.82mm Breakaway 19inlb , rolling 11inlb With Carrier shim 2.91+2.94 = 5.85 Breakaway 22inlb So I went with 19inlb shim set. Next will be checking backlash, final gear pattern, and listen...
  19. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    I wet sanded it with 1000 grit sandpaper, with no pressure. Blemish is gone But there are some lines moving in other direction I guess due to the wet sanding. Still feels smooth.
  20. alcyon

    Diff rebuild by "pro" not going well

    Oh dear, i was instaliling the bearing races, and once i was done with the front race, i had a look and noticed a smudge on the inner race. I should have checked earlier. My repeated attempts to spray with brake clean and wipe has not removed it. I ran my fingers and finger nail over the area...