Why does everyone underestimate the MKIII?
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suprabad;926611 said:
forgot POV 3. bought the car just to play around with, build it to go fast at the track, looks don't matter. and although this car may blow up, catch on fire kill 75 virgins and feed 4 countries in africa during the process, it's something to play with at the track on the weekends until it does
selfinfliction;926633 said:forgot POV 3. bought the car just to play around with, build it to go fast at the track, looks don't matter. and although this car may blow up, catch on fire kill 75 virgins and feed 4 countries in africa during the process, it's something to play with at the track on the weekends until it does
I'm just wondering why you bought the MK3 supra of all cars if you're not going to care about looks. (honest question)
It is your car though, so I'm not trying to force an opinion onto you. I'm just hoping some more people will read this thread and try to make their cars look nicer.
Ma70.Ent;926649 said:
i wanted to try something new. no one in my city has a more than stock mk3, mustangs are falling out of the sky and i help build/maintain 9 second coupes. i go through 2-3 motorcycles a year buying wrecked, rebuilding and selling them off. i've never messed with a turbo car, and in all honesty it's going to be a weekend/track beater. this car is going to have a rough life, so why spend a penny on aesthetics? as said before i have a nice looking car and motorcycle, i'm not in to trying to "pick up honey's" in the supra.
I just don't understand... You could have bought a shell or a car with a blown engine that's in decent condition if your plan is to rebuild and build it up anyway. Non running Supras are pretty inexpensive.
I understand people have different tastes about body kits or stock body or paint colors or whatever but I don't understand why you would want to have a car in poor condition intentionally.
No one said you need to have an expensive paint job or be trying to impress the ladies or your friends or anybody at all.
Supras aren't just some boy racer cheap cars or some bare bones performance car or a dime a dozen Civic or something. The car deserves better than to be kept looking like shit.
It's your car and you're gonna do what you're gonna do but no matter what the car's intended purpose is, I think the owner should take pride in it's presentation. Especially a car as nice as a Supra.
I understand people have different tastes about body kits or stock body or paint colors or whatever but I don't understand why you would want to have a car in poor condition intentionally.
No one said you need to have an expensive paint job or be trying to impress the ladies or your friends or anybody at all.
Supras aren't just some boy racer cheap cars or some bare bones performance car or a dime a dozen Civic or something. The car deserves better than to be kept looking like shit.
It's your car and you're gonna do what you're gonna do but no matter what the car's intended purpose is, I think the owner should take pride in it's presentation. Especially a car as nice as a Supra.
i love it when they underestimate me. i had a guy talk shit about my car. that it was a tin can on wheels. i confronted him and challenged him on a run. he was runing a 3rd gen eclipse runing 12lbs of boost. long story short. i took him by 2 car lengths i was running 12psi. after 3 runs and all kinds of excuses he still couldnt beat me.
Why do you paint a car?
TO PROTECT IT
Paint is protecting your investment from being eaten by rust. Cosmetic value comes second to that first reasoning to why they where ever painted at all.
Same reason a train is painted.
It's just an added bonus that properly cut and buffed paint that is well waxed protects better. And that you can get paint in any color.
Getting my doors blown off by a rustbucket makes me laugh as I can actually pull women in mine while his looks like it's fresh out of the junkyard after 20 years...
EDIT: FOrgot to mention I had an F350 think I was just another ricer...boy was he wrong.
TO PROTECT IT
Paint is protecting your investment from being eaten by rust. Cosmetic value comes second to that first reasoning to why they where ever painted at all.
Same reason a train is painted.
It's just an added bonus that properly cut and buffed paint that is well waxed protects better. And that you can get paint in any color.
Getting my doors blown off by a rustbucket makes me laugh as I can actually pull women in mine while his looks like it's fresh out of the junkyard after 20 years...
EDIT: FOrgot to mention I had an F350 think I was just another ricer...boy was he wrong.
Poodles;926886 said:
Thats the worst reason anyone buys or drive a car. I have NEVER given a flying fuck about what women think of my car but i do try my best to keep my car looking good and running well for my own enjoyment
themadhatter;927155 said:
i agree... if it takes a nice looking car to get you laid, you need plastic surgery, not a paint job
I don't know why people pick the MK3 as a drag or street racing car for their base platform to build on. It is too freaking heavy and limited on the amount of rubber than can be squeezed underneath it without major fender rolling or tubing. If racing is the ultimate goal, I think the MK3 is a poor overall choice.
csnow;927202 said:
because they want to?
csnow;927202 said:
we have mustangs running in the 9's on a 9.5" and i wouldn't consider rolling a fender "major" in any way
I didnt say rolling a fender is major, I said it would require major fender rolling.
When you get your MKIII into the 9's like the mustang then talk to me. I can count on one hand the number of MKIII's that I have seen post time slips in the 9's.
When you get your MKIII into the 9's like the mustang then talk to me. I can count on one hand the number of MKIII's that I have seen post time slips in the 9's.
Even the "almighty" MkIV is not the best drag car out there. So many other cars can beat the Supra in the 1320 with less horsepower.
Is the Supra the best track car? Nope... not there either.
The Supra is a GREAT all-around car. Jack of all trades - Master of none.
Remember though that when the MkIVs first came out nobody knew the full potential. It wasn't until people started pushing the envelope that people started to figure it out. There are FINALLY a few people out there pushing the envelope with the MkIII. The problem is too many people take a tired engine and try to push it to the edge without doing the basic maint. "WOW! I just got a MkIII for $500 and I want to cram 750whp through it." That's just asking for trouble.
Can the MkIII stand up with a MkIV? No actually. But that's just because of progress - not because the MkIII sucks. There's 8ish years of progress between the MkIII and the MkIV. Can a 1969 Porshe stand up with a 2008 Porsche? I think you'll find the answer there is also no. Is the 1969 Porsche any less desireable? Sure... to some people. But others will still long for that 1969. Can a 1979 Vette stand up with the 2008 Vette? How about the 79 RX7 and the 93? Maybe a 1980s Civic compared to a 2008 Civic?
Without progress we'd still be walking - or even further back.
Yes, some people will overlook the potential of the MkIII Supra. Some people will try to overcompensate for their lack of <insert whatever you would like here> by bashing something that is "old". So what? If it bothers you that much then you are on the wrong planet. You really should be living alone on another world where nobody will judge you for your choices. Get over it and grow up.
Is the Supra the best track car? Nope... not there either.
The Supra is a GREAT all-around car. Jack of all trades - Master of none.
Remember though that when the MkIVs first came out nobody knew the full potential. It wasn't until people started pushing the envelope that people started to figure it out. There are FINALLY a few people out there pushing the envelope with the MkIII. The problem is too many people take a tired engine and try to push it to the edge without doing the basic maint. "WOW! I just got a MkIII for $500 and I want to cram 750whp through it." That's just asking for trouble.
Can the MkIII stand up with a MkIV? No actually. But that's just because of progress - not because the MkIII sucks. There's 8ish years of progress between the MkIII and the MkIV. Can a 1969 Porshe stand up with a 2008 Porsche? I think you'll find the answer there is also no. Is the 1969 Porsche any less desireable? Sure... to some people. But others will still long for that 1969. Can a 1979 Vette stand up with the 2008 Vette? How about the 79 RX7 and the 93? Maybe a 1980s Civic compared to a 2008 Civic?
Without progress we'd still be walking - or even further back.
Yes, some people will overlook the potential of the MkIII Supra. Some people will try to overcompensate for their lack of <insert whatever you would like here> by bashing something that is "old". So what? If it bothers you that much then you are on the wrong planet. You really should be living alone on another world where nobody will judge you for your choices. Get over it and grow up.
csnow;927278 said:
thats why they're underestimated..
I havn't read any of the posts..
but they're the poor kids car.. poor kids cant put money to make it go fast.. yea there are a few fast ones.. but the majority of the people that have the cash to go fast, are looking at other cars and making them fast
tissimo;927292 said:
Or the middle-aged sap like me that happens to like the MK3 and puts way too much money into it:nuts:
csnow;927278 said:
i can't count the number of mustangs at the drag strip on any given day with my hands, your hands, and a dozen other people's hands. i can however, count how many mk3's are there by using no hands.
it's not about simply going fast, if that were the case i would jump on my bike and turn 9's all day long. i have a 4 cylinder that turns 13.1's and that don't sound like a beast, but a 4 cylinder that gets close to 35 mpg, looks good and turns almost a 13 flat is pretty cool.
my goal is to run low 11's wih my car, but that's MY goal, no one else's. once i learn the car and get it consistant, i'll hook up the bottle and push it into the 10's. it's all just a playing game, the supra is something to tinker with. and i'm sorry if you can't understand that not everyone is a fanboi of the supra. some of us just got them as a project and we like to work on cars. so be it, get over it
selfinfliction;927306 said:
defintely got the right car.. but make sure you keep the 7m if you like to work on it
only other choice is a dsm :rofl:
selfinfliction;923492 said:
Ironically, you have set the expectations too high. I dont mean to be rude, but 4K is chump change to spend between the hood and drivetrain. You will spend more than 4k just rebuilding the 7M properly to support low 11's. Now add turbo, intercooler, pipes, fuel support, engine management, exhaust, etc. You will definately get your wish of working on cars if that is all you are spending in hopes of going low 11's in a MK3.
Am I a MK3 fanboy? Yes, indeed. Hopefully you will sell your Cobalt and become one too and restore your MK3 and make it a 10 second beast
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