JustAnotherVictim
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Yes there were people in the movie.
It looks like beast wars travel back in time after the movie from the timeline.
It looks like beast wars travel back in time after the movie from the timeline.
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JustAnotherVictim said:
The beast wars entire series(arriving and leaving prehistoric earth), as confirmed earlier, takes place between the time of the original transformers crashing and hibternating and them waking up again later on.
The thing that threw me off was that in Beast Wars, the episode with star scream possessing waspinator speaks of star scream's destruction by Galvatron(remember the scene where galvatron blasts star scream away and crushes his crown). All that takes place in the movie which is in current time with modern humans and such. But just by talking about it in Beast wars(and they do), it would mean that he was killed before all of the beast wars series which would still be way before any modern human or society.
See what I'm getting at? There's some something wrong with the continuity... I blame it on the Beast Wars writers. Reading on wikipedia, it says the beast wars weren't originally planned to be connected to the older ones at all and the Earth wasn't even decided to be earth until late in season 1. Then they rewrote alot of stuff for future episodes to actually make beast wars a part of the 1st universe. But before then in season 1, there wasn't enough history given to show one way or the other.
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Unless Star Scream's spark came through the time warp with the maximal and predacon ships in the beginning...
JustAnotherVictim
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OneJoeZee said:
No, Season one, when they crash landed took place BEFORE the movie, Beast Wars and all of that stuff had already happened during the Ice age era, but when starscream die, his spark traveled back in time. Remember, The Decendants (Maximals and Predicons) of the original transformers weren't around when the movie happend and it's all ancient history to them.
Starscream's spark traveled back in time through the same type of time warp that the Maximals and Predicons took. Remeber, his spark is imortal, and he's been wandering the universe ever since...
starscream5000 said:
Yeah! I knew all of that but it was thrown out of whack to me when talking about star scream's spark in Beast Wars.
But saying it went back in time puts everything back into place as we had already established it like 3 pages ago.
I found something else odd. Megatron 2 gained his new dragon form in Beast Wars by absorbing the Megatron 1's spark. I don't recall him ever putting it back. :stickpoke Megatron 2 went back through time ahead of the original 1985 transformers timeline and straight to the Beast Wars/Machines time to conquer Cybertron. So how did Megatron 1 ever wake up in 1984 without a spark? Can you explain that!!!
they preserved Optimus Prime's timeline when Primal put Prime's spark back but I don't recall them doing the same for Megatron.
I think is showed his spark traveling through the time warp on one of the Beast Wars epsiodes... It's been too damn long, I'll have to watch them again when I make copies for you Joe.
If you watch it, you'll have to let me know. I don't think Megatron 2 ever gave Megatron 1 his spark back which would completely nullify the entire series of Transformers. :stickpoke
Given that was Megatron's goal in Beast Wars, to change time in the Decipticon/Predicon favor, but stealing Megatron 1's spark and never giving it back(which I don't think he did) definately would do the exact opposite since Megatron 1 would never have woken up in 1984 with the rest of the originals. But then on that note, Megatron 2 would never have been able to take Megatron 1's spark back in the past if #1 never had it in the future cuz #2 took it in Beast Wars... That's some convoluted shit, I know...
I think I'm on to something!!!
edit: Do this, if you can... Watch the last episode of Beast Wars. If it shows Megatron 2 taking off back into the future[his present] in his dragon form, the authors made a boo boo. :stickpoke Unless they describe somewhere in Beast Machines how Megatron 2 managed to remove the spark of #1 between leaving earth and going back through time and somehow putting it back into #1 to preserve his own timeline. :stickpoke
Given that was Megatron's goal in Beast Wars, to change time in the Decipticon/Predicon favor, but stealing Megatron 1's spark and never giving it back(which I don't think he did) definately would do the exact opposite since Megatron 1 would never have woken up in 1984 with the rest of the originals. But then on that note, Megatron 2 would never have been able to take Megatron 1's spark back in the past if #1 never had it in the future cuz #2 took it in Beast Wars... That's some convoluted shit, I know...
I think I'm on to something!!!
edit: Do this, if you can... Watch the last episode of Beast Wars. If it shows Megatron 2 taking off back into the future[his present] in his dragon form, the authors made a boo boo. :stickpoke Unless they describe somewhere in Beast Machines how Megatron 2 managed to remove the spark of #1 between leaving earth and going back through time and somehow putting it back into #1 to preserve his own timeline. :stickpoke
the more we talk about this the more i remember. and when the tie megatron up on the ship when the maximals leave he isn't a dragon. he is just a robot
i just remember they finally get in the ship and get into space and are all pumped about getting back to cybertron. and that megatron is strapped to the outside of the ship they are in!
and in the last few episodes of beast wars there is that manta ray and the crab and they seemed like huge charachters! were they from the origianl series
and in the last few episodes of beast wars there is that manta ray and the crab and they seemed like huge charachters! were they from the origianl series
Ah I do remember that. He broke his bonds on the ship and jumped through time ahead of the Maximals, that's how he conquered cybertron before they got there! I don't remember what form he was in, but it stands to be assumed that if he wasn't in dragon form, then the original Megatron's spark was put back into it's rightful owner's body...
If so, I'll have to find out exactly how the spark made it back to the body.
Just about every story, series, or movie that uses Time travel as an integral part of the story has an error somewhere in the overall timeline of events. I don't think Transformers is any different. There's got to be an error somewhere. This may not be it but there must be one and I will find it!
Just about every story, series, or movie that uses Time travel as an integral part of the story has an error somewhere in the overall timeline of events. I don't think Transformers is any different. There's got to be an error somewhere. This may not be it but there must be one and I will find it!
yeah i'm pretty sure he's just in robot form when he's on the ship. and remember in beast machines he doesn't have a body!! the whole time he is just that giant head that floats around in that ship.
Haha, I know we're having a good discussion on the cartoon, but the new movie was great. Went and saw it this morning. I would highly recommend everyone go see it.
"If he's such an advanced robot, why does he keep transforming back into that piece of shit camaro?"
"If he's such an advanced robot, why does he keep transforming back into that piece of shit camaro?"
