TRANSFORMERS<spoiler thread contains NERDS>

[starscream5000]

LOL, The original series JAV. It first started millions of years before 1985, then they crashed on earth and went into a type of hibernation, they awoke in 1985 (IIRC, could be a year of two off), during their hibernation the series of Beast wars was taking place as the decepticons and maximals were dogfighting in space, they traveled back in time to when the Arc was already buried inside a volcano, at the end of the series they made it back to the present time (unknown year to me). Confused yet?

 

[OneJoeZee]

Ok, I'm a bit confused now. I did some reading on wikipedia. What connection do the later series, Transformers: Armada, Energon, and Cybertron, have to do with the original? Same transformers? Different ones with the same names?

 

[Big Wang Bandit]

I watched Beast wars religiously too, and I missed the last episode completely.

I'm gonna find someone to go see it with this week

 

[starscream5000]

I have no idea, like I had said earlier, I haven't seen any of those. I'm thinking it's something completely different, like the original transformers, beast wars, beast machines are a type of OVA and the new stuff is something else... But I'm not for sure.

 

[OneJoeZee]

LOL, The original series JAV. It first started millions of years before 1985, then they crashed on earth and went into a type of hibernation, they awoke in 1985 (IIRC, could be a year of two off), during their hibernation the series of Beast wars was taking place as the decepticons and maximals were dogfighting in space, they traveled back in time to when the Arc was already buried inside a volcano, at the end of the series they made it back to the present time (unknown year to me). Confused yet?

Ok wait, back up... I'm really lost now...


So the original series of episodes were set millions of years in the past? Then at some point they crashed into earth and went into 'hibernation'? and Beast Wars takes place during this hibernation? Then the originals eventually wake up and that starts a new series?

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Can you write out a little Timeline for me?

 

[cartel1_950]

x2 on the time line

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

I'm actually following you now starscream.

 

[starscream5000]

Original transformers episodes 1-3 are set back millions of years in the past, back when dinosaurs were roaming the planet.

After both ships, the arc and the decepticon's ship (forgot the name, but it's also in beast wars, they bring it back online and fly it around) crash, the autobots and decepticons go into a hibernation.

In comes beast wars. These series takes place XXXX amount of years after the crash landings, up until the maximals and decepticons (what's left of both sides) make it off earth and warp back to their present time, at that point when they get back, all of the original transformers series have already taken place and the present time for beast wars is XX amount of years after the last episode of the original transformers.

1985, the original transformers wake up, do their thing in season 1. Then comes the movie, then the rest of the seasons, then the time when the maximals and decepticons make it back to their own time, then beast machines season.

 

[OneJoeZee]

It's still a little cloudy for me... I'll just read your post like 20 times and hope it sinks in.

So the ships the originals crash into the earth with and the ships the Beast Wars Transformers crash into the earth with are the same or different?

 

[cartel1_950]

yeah thats were i'm lost! how can the arc and decpticon ship be on earth AND on the beast wars planet

 

[OneJoeZee]

yeah thats were i'm lost! how can the arc and decpticon ship be on earth AND on the beast wars planet

well those are the same planet, I'm just a little cloudy on the time travel part of the timeline. and wasn't sure if the two sets of ships are one and the same.

I think even a couple episodes of beast wars had humans in them. Don't remember. Starscream will probably know that answer too, though. "P

 

[starscream5000]

Completely different. The autobot's ship is called the Arc, the decpticon's ship is called Nemesis (had to search it). The Maximals ship and the PREDICONS (That's what they were called! It's coming back to me now, heh) ships are completely different, and much smaller as the average size of a maximal or predicon is about the same size as one of the cassett sized decipticons or autobots that soundwave and jaz have.

 

[starscream5000]

No humans in beast wars, just some cave men, or missing links .

 

[OneJoeZee]

as the average size of a maximal or predicon is about the same size as one of the cassett sized decipticons or autobots that soundwave and jaz have.

No shit? Was that made evident in episodes where the real Optimus was found?

edit: cavemen, human. That's what I meant.

 

[starscream5000]

Yep!

They were damn small, then when Optimus Primal (Teaser ahead) took Optimus Prime's matrix into himself, he got damn big, but only about half the size of the true autobots, that's about when the big beast wars characters (and action figures) started coming into the series. You guys must have only seen like the first season :icon_conf

 

[cartel1_950]

i don't remember any people in the beast wars series!!

 

[OneJoeZee]

Ok... I think I'm almost in 100% understanding.

Imaginary +1 for all of that elaboration.

 

[OneJoeZee]

Here's the million dollar question... We kept talking about beast wars and their time travel. Where/when is their present time in relation to the beginning or end of the original transformers? In the 1st episode they come out of a timewarp and shoot each other down and land on earth which is XXXX years after the originals crashed there. Their main goal is to get off the planet and get back to their own time. Is the beast wars transformers real time before going back in time after the originals are over.

And this will probably help clarify a few things... What happens at the end of the original series?

 

[Ric]

I can't watch it til tomorrow.

 

[OneJoeZee]

i don't remember any people in the beast wars series!!

The main characters were,

Optimus Primal, Rhinox, Cheetor, and Rattrap. I think that was it in the beginning for the Maximals

Predacons had Megatron, Tarantulus, Dinobot,Terrasaur, Waspinator, and Scorpinok.

They added a bunch of characters on both sides through the 1st and 2nd season.

Now that I think about it, Terrasaur was alot more like Starscream than Dinobot...