"The Six Billion Dollar Experiment" LHC

[Suprawannabe]

I brought this up on a forum that I frequent and though I would share

"In the coming months the most complex scientific instrument ever built will be switched on. The Large Hadron Collider promises to recreate the conditions right after the Big Bang. By revisiting the beginning of time, scientists hope to unravel some of the deepest secrets of our Universe."

Here is the BBC video about the LHC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6454521153918323669&hl=en

Here is the LHC's main web site http://www.cern.ch/lhc/

Basically the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) is going to be the biggest particle accelerator ever made. Scientist have come up the "Standard Model" which is the basic particles of matter. The only thing missing is what forms matter into objects, Higgs boson is what they call this missing particle. With the LHC scientist hope to be able to find it.

There is also a possibility that the LHC can create a black hole and destroy the world/universe . A very very very small possibility. Supposedly they should just dissipate.

The start date as of now is May 2008 but could still change.

 

[Poodles]

number 12 on 20 ways we could be destroyed...

12. Particle accelerator mishap

Theodore Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber, raved that a particle accelerator experiment could set off a chain reaction that would destroy the world. Surprisingly, many sober-minded physicists have had the same thought. Normally their anxieties come up during private meetings, amidst much scribbling on the backs of used envelopes. Recently the question went public when London's Sunday Times reported that the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) on Long Island, New York, might create a subatomic black hole that would slowly nibble away our planet. Alternately, it might create exotic bits of altered matter, called strangelets, that would obliterate whatever ordinary matter they met. To assuage RHIC's jittery neighbors, the lab's director convened a panel that rejected both scenarios as pretty much impossible. Just for good measure, the panel also dismissed the possibility that RHIC would trigger a phase transition in the cosmic vacuum energy (see #3). These kinds of reassurances follow the tradition of the 1942 "LA-602" report, a once-classified document that explained why the detonation of the first atomic bomb almost surely would not set the atmosphere on fire. The RHIC physicists did not, however, reject the fundamental possibility of the disasters. They argued that their machine isn't nearly powerful enough to make a black hole or destabilize the vacuum. Oh, well. We can always build a bigger accelerator.

 

[mkiiSupraMan18]

Here is the BBC video about the LHC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...18323669&hl=en

Why did you put the .'s in it? :icon_bigg

 

[DreamerTheresa]

Oh noes.

 

[BlackMKIII]

Here is the BBC video about the LHC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...18323669&hl=en

 

[Suprawannabe]

Why did you put the .'s in it? :icon_bigg

whoops I copied and pasted it from my original post, here's the link http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6454521153918323669&hl=en

 

[mkiiSupraMan18]

I always hated that phrase 'from nothing came everything...'

Kinda gives me an eerie feeling.

*edit*
Does anyone else think this stuff is so far out that it's impossible? Even the stuff that are actually being done today... Sorry, I just think that astronomy stuff is awesome.

 

[Suprawannabe]

Oh I think it very cool, that's why I posted it.

There is going to be some advancements from the LHC. Whether they're big or small, only time will tell.

 

[thechori]

well that black hole and the strangelets sound really fun

so i haven't read anything but the info on this thread, and from what i'm understanding, we are risking our humanity to see how our world was created after the big bang? if that's correct; What the fuck?

damn Brits

 

[Suprawannabe]

It depends on how you look at it. Yeah there is a very remote chance something could happen, just like like when we set off the A- bomb there was a remote chance of vaporizing the atmosphere. Considering it is very unlikely, its not that big of a concern compared to what good could come from it.

 

[thesandymancan]

It depends on how you look at it. Yeah there is a very remote chance something could happen, just like like when we set off the A- bomb there was a remote chance of vaporizing the atmosphere. Considering it is very unlikely, its not that big of a concern compared to what good could come from it.

interesting topic.

however, i don't see what good came from the atomic bomb. sure, it ended WWII... but did good come from it?

 

[Suprawannabe]

interesting topic.

however, i don't see what good came from the atomic bomb. sure, it ended WWII... but did good come from it?

I wasn't referring to the Abomb being a good thing. That was for the LHC. I was just using an example of how if we go into the unknown we can never really know the outcome whether it be a theory or not, we just have to take a chance and rely on what we know. The level this particle accelerator can go is higher then ever before. So there are a lot of things that can happen.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

So what exactly would the LHC give us? Wha't's so good about it, other than it's just interesting.

 

[Suprawannabe]

Watch the vid.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

No big interest in watching really....You can tell me it. Create new planet or new life on planet (new oil, other resources and things?)?

 

[figgie]

LHC

Higgs Boson, the last piece of the particle puzzle. The particle that "gives" an object MASS. At least if our model is correct

So what is so big about mass you say?

Well MASS is what limits us to C (Speed of light) as when you approach speed of light, Mass becomes infinite making inertia infinite. So what?

Mass is connected with inertia.

Mass is connected directly with gravity. More mass more gravity. Surpass critical mass and you end up with a blackhole.

Mass = energy. Ensue more mass to a piece of wood and you have more wood to burn for the same given dimension, same with coal or other fuels. How? Density is mass per unit volume.

 

[Adrian98]

i vote for a black hole, or at least a airplane engine crashing though my bedroom roof

 

[mkiiSupraMan18]

If this actually works... I honestly doubt its going to answer ever question that we could possible have. I think it'll raise more questions than it will answer, esp if the Higgs thing turns out to be incorrect.

Once it gets to THAT level, everything just starts sounding 'stupid'.

 

[Jaguar_5]

Only if you can't wrap your mind around it...

If it opens up more questions than it answers, that means we have succeeded and know where to look next

 

[bigunitpitcher22]

i vote for a black hole, or at least a airplane engine crashing though my bedroom roof

I lol'd at that one. Donnie Darko right? I need to go and buy that movie.