Spooky Apartment...Moving
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mkIIIman089 said:
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artmo said:
Interesting point. Scientifically, no, space probably isn't infinite... or maybe it is. Philosophically speaking space is nothing. Space itself is the absence of absolutely everything. The partical density in interstellar space is theorized to be only a molecule or two per cubic kilometer. Can we prove it... not really.
But, the catch isn't how infinite or finite space is or isn't, it's how far away the oldest "things" in the universe are, that would be quasars. Of course, next to nothing is known about them (other than that they are moving away from us, implying that the universe is expanding) other than the fact that they're the furthest thing from us formed during the infancy of the universe. What's beyond those? Well, probably nothing... which is probably space. Maybe you're right, and there's a "bubble" if you will, like a wall somewhere on the fringes of imagination, that if you flew far enough through the black void, fast enough, you'd eventually bump into it, the first and oldest thing ever created into existence. What could that "wall" possibly be? What would be on the other side? If it existed, could we go through it, and would we be able to get back? I think the idea of infinite space scares alot of people off just for the idea of imagining that we live in something that has no end. To truly grasp that idea boggles the mind.
How does this relate to weird and freaky ghosts? Well, it really doesn't, lol. I've heard some very unexplainable ghost stories, and none I can disprove as they are told. But, there's no proof that they happened either and no proof that they didn't. So, I will point the finger at the unknown, things that are "grey area" in our long and growing list of knowledge. Maybe it's our lack of understanding of the human mind, perhaps it really is ethereal beings from beyond our plane of existence, coming back for one last touch of warm flesh... or maybe it's something else we don't yet understand.
I have a new ghost story to share, second hand from an ex-girlfriend of mine. She was telling me of her friend's house, a century old house around the Vancouver area... that is "extremely haunted"... strange occurances like talking from rooms that are empty, lights turning themselves on and off when you're the only one home, "cold pockets", the standard stuff... but it gets better: She was telling me that her friend (the daughter of the homeowner) was sitting in the kitchen with another person (only two people in the house), and she suddenly got very very cold, like lips turning blue cold... and then her arm was sliced open by nothing (so deep it required stitching). Apparently, she has scars from it.
Yes, could be lies and slander... but, these people are terrified to be in the basement of this house at night, and NO ONE will even think about sleeping downstairs for fear of never waking up. I was like "fuck yeah, I'll sit down there all night" and her response was "I wouldn't let you, you'd die!". That said, something strange is going on in that house or some strange people live there. And from what she says, there is no one that argues there IS something weird and unexplainable going on in that house... does that mean they're all crazy? Or they're all seeing the same illusions? Or that they are all collaborating in the same elaborate haux? Or, although the least possible, that there is something that we cannot explain.
From the things she told me, there is no logical explanation whatsoever for most of the strangest things that happen in that house (draws sliding open and then closed, randomly, for no reason, and no one else is there?). So, do I call it imagination? Maybe, but my curiosity for the unknown and the thirst for answers will always outweigh my own sense of self preservation. I would certainly wish to live to see if there is something there, or die to know it was.
Yes, stories are stories... but the truth is often far stranger than fiction. The best ghost stories are the ones that people tell that are "true", because they are always so very strange and unexplainable that you walk away dumbfounded and confused. A "ghost story" written by an author will never compare to the real thing.
So, anyone want to go camp out in a haunted basement with me? :biglaugh:
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Ghosts are all imaginary and none of that 'scary' stuff ever is true or exists...
If you think about it most of this stuff happens at night, which is when we are prey... as naturally our eye sight isn't as good as other creatures out in the night...
Do you think a tiger in a forest all alone gets all pansy-like and scared when its out hunting? Don't think so... too many movies I think blur what is reality and isn't.
If you think about it most of this stuff happens at night, which is when we are prey... as naturally our eye sight isn't as good as other creatures out in the night...
Do you think a tiger in a forest all alone gets all pansy-like and scared when its out hunting? Don't think so... too many movies I think blur what is reality and isn't.
I am not religious, I do not believe in god or hocus pocus. I too am a man of science. I like to see the facts... the proof... the physical. 15 years ago I would defend the science guys here and say that anything else is BS, fabricated in your mind.
But since then I have seen some shit... Beyond explanation...Several times... First hand. I wouldn't call it ghosts anymore than god, but there are definatly some things going on in this world which I do not understand, and which current science has no rational explanation.
Us science guys don't like things which cannot be explained rationally. I however, have come to accept these things as real, regardless of whether they can be explained or not. IMHO, This is where some folks turn to god or ghosts... It's an easy explanation for things we don't understand.
But since then I have seen some shit... Beyond explanation...Several times... First hand. I wouldn't call it ghosts anymore than god, but there are definatly some things going on in this world which I do not understand, and which current science has no rational explanation.
Us science guys don't like things which cannot be explained rationally. I however, have come to accept these things as real, regardless of whether they can be explained or not. IMHO, This is where some folks turn to god or ghosts... It's an easy explanation for things we don't understand.
Nothing too outrageous really, but seeing these things first hand is what really got me thinking. :aigo:
My first apartment...about 15 years ago...
Not sure if it's related, but there was a real human skull with an axe shaped chunk missing from the top on our entertainment center. It belonged to my friend who split the apartment with me (another friend had found it in his garage when we were in high school), and to this day it's the long standing joke as the "haunted" skull...
A lighter came out of the air and hit me in the chest right after i asked for one. It did not belong to either of the other/only 2 people there. I was looking at them when it happened, and they had nothing to do with it. There were many other strange sounds and lights going wacky there as well, but the lighter is the one I can't forget.
A house my girlfriend temporarily moved into...about 6 years ago...
Her friend bought the house and they moved into it at the same time. I was pretty much there all the time too. We had a fan in the bedroom, it had a switch you had to turn manually to change. It had a mind of its own. We would almost always come home to the fan on a different position, and always turned it off in the morning. I would set it on low-ocellating, fall asleep and wake up to it on full blast-steady. The switches were changed, all the time, and no-one did it. The same thing would happen to the ceiling fan/light in the living room.
Like someone else mentioned, a glass broke in the sink for no apparent reason, and immediatly following the cats (4) were very sketched out, but not from the sound. They were all frozen, in different places in the room, fixated on the same spot in the room, hugging the ground and growling... In unison, they all tracked the same spot, starting at the doorway to the kitchen... across the dining room... and toward the sliding glass door to the backyard. After about a minute, they all ran to the glass and started hissing and growling like some animal was out there or something, but there was nothing. It was freaky.
There is a long list of shit that used to happen in that house, but those things I saw myself. We moved out after about 6 weeks (bought a house of our own), and her friend sold the house within a few weeks of us leaving, and she's got some pretty crazy stories about after we left.
I truly believe cats can see some spooky shit we can't!
Havn't seen anything out of the ordinary since then, except some of these cars!
My first apartment...about 15 years ago...
Not sure if it's related, but there was a real human skull with an axe shaped chunk missing from the top on our entertainment center. It belonged to my friend who split the apartment with me (another friend had found it in his garage when we were in high school), and to this day it's the long standing joke as the "haunted" skull...
A lighter came out of the air and hit me in the chest right after i asked for one. It did not belong to either of the other/only 2 people there. I was looking at them when it happened, and they had nothing to do with it. There were many other strange sounds and lights going wacky there as well, but the lighter is the one I can't forget.
A house my girlfriend temporarily moved into...about 6 years ago...
Her friend bought the house and they moved into it at the same time. I was pretty much there all the time too. We had a fan in the bedroom, it had a switch you had to turn manually to change. It had a mind of its own. We would almost always come home to the fan on a different position, and always turned it off in the morning. I would set it on low-ocellating, fall asleep and wake up to it on full blast-steady. The switches were changed, all the time, and no-one did it. The same thing would happen to the ceiling fan/light in the living room.
Like someone else mentioned, a glass broke in the sink for no apparent reason, and immediatly following the cats (4) were very sketched out, but not from the sound. They were all frozen, in different places in the room, fixated on the same spot in the room, hugging the ground and growling... In unison, they all tracked the same spot, starting at the doorway to the kitchen... across the dining room... and toward the sliding glass door to the backyard. After about a minute, they all ran to the glass and started hissing and growling like some animal was out there or something, but there was nothing. It was freaky.
There is a long list of shit that used to happen in that house, but those things I saw myself. We moved out after about 6 weeks (bought a house of our own), and her friend sold the house within a few weeks of us leaving, and she's got some pretty crazy stories about after we left.
I truly believe cats can see some spooky shit we can't!
Havn't seen anything out of the ordinary since then, except some of these cars!
c_ronius said:
Considering different animals see in different ranges of our known light spectrum, it would not be too outrageous to assume certain animals are able to see things we humans can't. If that means ghosts, well I don't know. Maybe ghosts or spirits or whatever they are that may exist are only able to be seen in a light frequency that is outside the range of human vision. Maybe they are able to adjust their properties to a range of the spectrum to only be seen by animals. I think dogs are able to see frequencies that are either in a lower or higher range than us. Don't quote me on that though, I'm not sure and just using as an example.
Not saying I believe in ghosts at all but it's just a thought...
While I may not believe it was a ghost that caused his experience, that doesn't mean I have to know exactly what else could have caused it. I wasn't there. Maybe someone was playing a joke on him and through the lighter at him. I don't know.
I can't be expected to explain every odd occurence that's happened to everyone just because I don't believe in ghosts. I would need sufficient evidence and knowledge of the event(basically being there) or be able to relate it to a similar experience I've had in which I had already came to a conclusion about its cause.
The point I've been trying to make is that I would consider many other possibilities for any given experience before I attribute an occurence to being caused by a ghost.
I can't be expected to explain every odd occurence that's happened to everyone just because I don't believe in ghosts. I would need sufficient evidence and knowledge of the event(basically being there) or be able to relate it to a similar experience I've had in which I had already came to a conclusion about its cause.
The point I've been trying to make is that I would consider many other possibilities for any given experience before I attribute an occurence to being caused by a ghost.