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that like asking a medical worker what would they think if they get aids from a patient. Goes with the territory. Actually, a medical worker is there to help people. It's nothing like asking a medical worker that same question. You are in it for yourself, and no one else. It would only hurt you if it effected you personally. Some people are actually out to help other people. In doing this, they accept the fact that people like you spread HIV and put them at greater risk.

But at the same time there are NUMEROUS ways to reduce risk whether you choose to take them or not it is your responsibility. Yes, like waiting until the wedding day.

Faith? no such thing only to a person that is religous.
using me for sex? No. Using each other for hot, passionate, lustful animal sex, yes. Faith is believing in what you can not see. Do you believe you can wake up tomorrow, even though you can not see that far ahead? Faith is not only religious. And as far as the sex goes, I get that from my wife, and it goes even deeper than that. We Love each other, and we fully trust each other, because niether of us have given the other a reason not to.

and tisk tisk..

reading 101.

A person is smart, articulate thoughtful. PEOPLE on the other hand are ignorant, thoughtless and all suffer from the lemming suicide influece. Monkey see, monkey do. Is not more than one person refered to as people?

I find it funny that the lot of you are aruing against this when literally the decision was made already ;) Yes, I'm quite amused myself!

<--- Goes to buy Plan B OTC because I can and spite the lot of you zealots.
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That's great for you. I on the other hand care about other people besides just myself. I find that I have more friends that way who actually care about me in return, and don't use me for the money I have.

Above all, good luck to you. I don't envy the realization you will have when all you base your life on comes crashing down, and you realize that there is a power out there greater than you. Is there a higher power that we all have to answer to? I don't know for sure, but at least I'm safe if there is, and I have people that like me for how I life in the mean time.

If I'm wrong, no harm done I'm in the same boat you are. I've just lived my life the way I thought would help other people. If I'm right, I go to heaven and live an eternity in a more wonderful place than you can imagine. :biglaugh: If you're right, all I've done is make my life a little harder by trying to care for other people. If you're wrong, that means you're going to hell, and everything you've worked for here on earth means nothing.

Cheers to you, and although I might not be able to call you friend, I wish you the best. I wish you all the joy and happieness you can get here. But in that, I also pray you see the light.
 
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Supracentral said:
George Hanson: They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.
Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.
George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.
Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.
George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.
Billy: Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.
George Hanson: No, it makes 'em dangerous.

That little exchange is probably closer to the truth than most people want to admit...
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Ah yes, let's turn to the same brilliant minds who gave us such meaningful lyrics as "love love me do - you know I love you - I'll always be true - so please, love me do" and "hey Bungalo Bill - what did you kill - Bungalo Bill?". Amazing the deepful meaning of what pop artists bring to the world. In the words of Homer Simpson: "Ahh actors... What don't they know?"
 
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cadman said:
That's great for you. I on the other hand care about other people besides just myself. I find that I have more friends that way who actually care about me in return, and don't use me for the money I have.

Above all, good luck to you. I don't envy the realization you will have when all you base your life on comes crashing down, and you realize that there is a power out there greater than you. Is there a higher power that we all have to answer to? I don't know for sure, but at least I'm safe if there is, and I have people that like me for how I life in the mean time.

If I'm wrong, no harm done I'm in the same boat you are. I've just lived my life the way I thought would help other people. If I'm right, I go to heaven and live an eternity in a more wonderful place than you can imagine. :biglaugh: If you're right, all I've done is make my life a little harder by trying to care for other people. If you're wrong, that means you're going to hell, and everything you've worked for here on earth means nothing.

Cheers to you, and although I might not be able to call you friend, I wish you the best. I wish you all the joy and happieness you can get here. But in that, I also pray you see the light.
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Use me? For money? excuse me while I laugh. HA!

I don't even complete the story and here is your over active imagination making up details as the post fly by. Gee if your imagination is this active, I wonder how many more idealisms have you and your goons concocted.... oh wait that is right forgot that you follow a preaching of a book and then try to impart its stories as truth on everyone (otherwise you would not be here preaching about your Money, significant other, and hell by not abiding by what you believe is the truth) and if they don't agree with your view they go to this proverbial hell. Funnah!!


yawwwnnnn, the typical "can't wait for my life to turn to shit" argument. Don't hold your breath on that one as countless other lemmings besides you have ill wished me in the past and here I am still laughing at their stupidity, ignorance and closed mindedness. Why? Because I don't give two flying fucks what you neaderthals think of me ;)


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heaven and hell. Dillusions created by the religous lemmings to establish a following for those that can not think to themselves and can not handle death. You live, you die. that is it.

God is merciful, unless you are dieing of cancer in which case you will suffer a death more painful than anything imaginable, not even Morphine in its purest form will take the pain away (seen in twice and both times sucked).

Benevlonet god, talk a bout a fucking contradiction in its highest form, but shouldn't be surprised as you religous zealot display the contradiction day in and out.
 
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Wow this discussion has changed directions several times. We've gone through many twists and turns.

It appears now we are on the topic of how can you have morality without a god to tell you right from wrong?

That appears to be the question being asked at this point, correct me if I am wrong.

I can answer that easily. I am a rational human being. I can decide what is right and wrong without someone else telling me. It think that's the basic difference at this juncture, and there will never be any shape or form of consensus as long as that basic divide exists.

Some of you have an external god and ancient books to tell you what is right and wrong. I have my mind, my 5 senses and my rational self interest. In short, I am my own god, and that's why we'll never see eye to eye.
 
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Calm down, folks. Remember the mantra of the internet poster avoiding flame wars: "I disagree with your opinion, however, I respect the fact that you are entitled to your own views." This also works well when trying to avoid getting your long running debate thread locked by an admin. Hint hint.
 
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it was bound to

even though "they" didn't want to admit it at first that it was a religous objection. My post coaxed it out of them that in fact it was a religous objection and had nothing to do with doom and gloom, morality, ethics, etc.

My way or the high way!! <-- according to the zealots.
 
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figgie said:
Use me? For money? excuse me while I laugh. HA!

I don't even complete the story and here is your over active imagination making up details as the post fly by. Gee if your imagination is this active, I wonder how many more idealisms have you and your goons concocted.... oh wait that is right forgot that you follow a preaching of a book and then try to impart its stories as truth on everyone (otherwise you would not be here preaching about your Money, significant other, and hell by not abiding by what you believe is the truth) and if they don't agree with your view they go to this proverbial hell. Funnah!!


yawwwnnnn, the typical "can't wait for my life to turn to shit" argument. Don't hold your breath on that one as countless other lemmings besides you have ill wished me in the past and here I am still laughing at their stupidity, ignorance and closed mindedness. Why? Because I don't give two flying fucks what you neaderthals think of me ;)


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heaven and hell. Dillusions created by the religous lemmings to establish a following for those that can not think to themselves and can not handle death. You live, you die. that is it.

God is merciful, unless you are dieing of cancer in which case you will suffer a death more painful than anything imaginable, not even Morphine in its purest form will take the pain away (seen in twice and both times sucked).

Benevlonet god, talk a bout a fucking contradiction in its highest form, but shouldn't be surprised as you religous zealot display the contradiction day in and out.
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Figgie, I really don't even know where you came up with this. It seems you've become too upset to continue this argument in any understandable following of a thread. Yes, I did get off topic as well, but tried to keep it as close as possible to what we were trying to say. It almost seems you have turned it into a name-calling bash on other people's beliefs. The little pill stems from a lot of different things that's for sure.

It is your oppinion vs. mine. I have a really old book as a guid through life. You have your own methods. If we all thought the same, this life would be boring. In the end, we both must do what we feel is right. That's pretty much it.

Keeping yourself a bit more under control in this area would help other people understand where you're coming from. However, with that last post, it got a bit out of hand, and I couldn't follow it. That could be just my inability to see the way you do, and for that I oppologise.

In keeping with this thread's subject, lets put aside all other differences, and just agree that we do not agree on the way birth control is handled.

I got out of hand too, this is in no way one person's fault. Please forgive me.
 
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Figgie, I really don't even know where you came up with this. It seems you've become too upset to continue this argument in any understandable following of a thread. Yes, I did get off topic as well, but tried to keep it as close as possible to what we were trying to say. It almost seems you have turned it into a name-calling bash on other people's beliefs. The little pill stems from a lot of different things that's for sure.

It is your oppinion vs. mine. I have a really old book as a guid through life. You have your own methods. If we all thought the same, this life would be boring. In the end, we both must do what we feel is right. That's pretty much it.

Keeping yourself a bit more under control in this area would help other people understand where you're coming from. However, with that last post, it got a bit out of hand, and I couldn't follow it. That could be just my inability to see the way you do, and for that I oppologise.

In keeping with this thread's subject, lets put aside all other differences, and just agree that we do not agree on the way birth control is handled.

I got out of hand too, this is in no way one person's fault. Please forgive me.
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upset?

me? lol. over an internet post? nah. I don't get upset over such trivial matters. :) we all have our views and choices. I do get concerned when people try to curb those choices as having choices is a good thing. :)
 
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figgie said:
upset?

me? lol. over an internet post? nah. I don't get upset over such trivial matters. :) we all have our views and choices. I do get concerned when people try to curb those choices as having choices is a good thing. :)
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Jesus was an unplanned pregnancy right? What if Jesus' mom had access to plan B??




;) just trying to lighten the mood...
 
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hopefully this will lighten the mood.... my above mentioned friend.. Nona whos "unplanned" pregnancy changed her life, had her baby today... hes early but none the less a cajun indeed... hows this for some smiles

Please meet Jett Devoe
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:love: :love: :love: :love:
 
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cajunangel said:
hopefully this will lighten the mood.... my above mentioned friend.. Nona whos "unplanned" pregnancy changed her life, had her baby today... hes early but none the less a cajun indeed... hows this for some smiles

Please meet Jett Devoe
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:love: :love: :love: :love:
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Hehehe, he's got a smile that's for sure. Awesome.
 
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