New Engine Set-Up Finally In *PICS*

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hindsight being 20/20, might have been good to have the machine shop assemble the bottom end in house, that way if something is wrong its on them. Would have cost more initially but would have saved it in the end. But like you said, assembly isnt that hard as long as you follow proper proceedure and "work clean, not fast".

Either you have had had incredibly bad luck or missmatched/improperly machined parts...or both. Either way it sucks big time but its good to hear you havent given up. I know about being there emotionally, good for you for fighting through it. Take your time, make notes as you go, triple check every step, and we will all keep our fingers crossed for you to have the machine you deserve.
 

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drbowser3;982737 said:
The betting was a Joke, cam gears have nothing to do with me, and I have clearly stated to Bill what I feel the problem is.


And as for adding P.S. I can add a few but this is a build thread.

Good luck Bill.


Alright thats cool. I'm just saying if you guys have any additional ideas/you feel it isn't piston slap please share/explain. So I can have a working supra.
 

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BoostedFloto;982744 said:
Alright thats cool. I'm just saying if you guys have any additional ideas/you feel it isn't piston slap please share/explain. So I can have a working supra.

Only heard the car that one time at the shop, so it is hard to tell where the noise originates from.

New Block is still my suggestion. And I think you should stop switching machine shops, its hard to tell who fucked up what where.

One place left plugs in crank(which BTW you should have seen), one place over-bored the cylinders, one gave wrong bearings.... Whats next, they gonna give you a Ford 4.9L I6 for a block????
 

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i dont know ideal supra personally but have never had a problem with him or any dealings with him and never heard of anyone that had a bad experience with him. however if youd like another set of eyes during assembly i can come check it out. ive built more then a few bottom ends, 5m, 6m, and 7m engines. not saying the person doing it isnt competent, just i love building engines so would like to hang out while its going together just for shits and giggles. lol. to me best time you can have is building engines shooting the shit with a bunch of guys in the know talking about ideas and future plans. lol.

id offer to listen to it but its already out of the car. but from the details given it sounds like piston slap to me. thats a huge clearance.
 

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drbowser3;982749 said:
Only heard the car that one time at the shop, so it is hard to tell where the noise originates from.

New Block is still my suggestion. And I think you should stop switching machine shops, its hard to tell who fucked up what where.

One place left plugs in crank(which BTW you should have seen), one place over-bored the cylinders, one gave wrong bearings.... Whats next, they gonna give you a Ford 4.9L I6 for a block????

Theres been only 2 machine shops...

Orlando: Backwards rods, overbore, deck surfacing not good, crank plugs not done.
Engine Labs: Everything has been good.

Never heard of a place giving us wrong bearings? Needless to say the Orlando shop didnt help anything.... New block/crank and have engine labs do everything properly and he should be fine.
 

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williamb82;982750 said:
i dont know ideal supra personally but have never had a problem with him or any dealings with him and never heard of anyone that had a bad experience with him. however if youd like another set of eyes during assembly i can come check it out. ive built more then a few bottom ends, 5m, 6m, and 7m engines. not saying the person doing it isnt competent, just i love building engines so would like to hang out while its going together just for shits and giggles. lol. to me best time you can have is building engines shooting the shit with a bunch of guys in the know talking about ideas and future plans. lol.

id offer to listen to it but its already out of the car. but from the details given it sounds like piston slap to me. thats a huge clearance.

Youre more then welcome to come over whenever we do it up again. (yes i just invited you to BILLS house hahaha).

He already has a ton of random ass neighbors that stop by and bother the hell out of us as it is. ;)
 

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Idealsupra;982760 said:
Theres been only 2 machine shops...

Orlando: Backwards rods, overbore, deck surfacing not good, crank plugs not done.
Engine Labs: Everything has been good.

Never heard of a place giving us wrong bearings? Needless to say the Orlando shop didnt help anything.... New block/crank and have engine labs do everything properly and he should be fine.

I was told by Bill, the first motor, non-forged build had "main-cap knock" because the machine shop ordered the wrong bearings.
 

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drbowser3;982749 said:
Only heard the car that one time at the shop, so it is hard to tell where the noise originates from.

New Block is still my suggestion. And I think you should stop switching machine shops, its hard to tell who fucked up what where.

One place left plugs in crank(which BTW you should have seen), one place over-bored the cylinders, one gave wrong bearings.... Whats next, they gonna give you a Ford 4.9L I6 for a block????


I've only switched shops ONCE, I switched away from the place in orlando and have been going to engine labs since.

Well FYI the plugs stay in the crank! They didn't take them out and clean them like most shops do and we didn't know to check it(which I'd hazard to guess not many people do). That SAME shop(one in orlando) was the one who messed up the bore on the cylinders and I've never got wrong bearings.
 

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drbowser3;982763 said:
I was told by Bill, the first motor, non-forged build had "main-cap knock" because the machine shop ordered the wrong bearings.

Hmmmm to be 100% honest that being like 2+ years ago (sheesh) I dont even remember shit about the non forged engine.
 

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Idealsupra;982762 said:
Youre more then welcome to come over whenever we do it up again. (yes i just invited you to BILLS house hahaha).

He already has a ton of random ass neighbors that stop by and bother the hell out of us as it is. ;)

Will there be BBQ? ;)
 

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Idealsupra;982762 said:
Youre more then welcome to come over whenever we do it up again. (yes i just invited you to BILLS house hahaha).

He already has a ton of random ass neighbors that stop by and bother the hell out of us as it is. ;)

if its ok with him id seriously liek to come by and meet all you guys. ill be in the beater mk2 though. still got lots to do before i bother getting the 7m car legal and back on the road. easier to do stuff while its parked. lol.
 

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jdub;982777 said:
I know Ian doesn't care, but will there be beer?

All the Beer and Steak you and IJ can eat/drink lol


William yes your more then welcome to come over next time we are doing it up....more then likely about a month or so...
 

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Idealsupra;982776 said:
If you come I will personally cook you a steak ;)

One of these days we will have to take up a fund to get your old ass over here.... do we need to get an extra seat on the plane for your oxygen tank? :sarcasm:

ROFLMAO Prick! :D

One day I'll head on up there and say Hi!

No need to arrange funds I have that covered as long as I can get somewhere to sleep!
<non drinker
 

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cool. i almost never drink, and wont drink beer even if i was going to drink so ill be sober to go on a beer run if necc. lol. where do you live exatly? im real close to malfunction junction. lol.
 

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IJ.;982787 said:
ROFLMAO Prick! :D

One day I'll head on up there and say Hi!

No need to arrange funds I have that covered as long as I can get somewhere to sleep!
<non drinker

On a serious note anytime you want to head over to sunny FL and hang with the supra guys Bill does have a spare bedroom :D Youll just have to fight his fatass Bulldog for it. :biglaugh:
 

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williamb82;982790 said:
cool. i almost never drink, and wont drink beer even if i was going to drink so ill be sober to go on a beer run if necc. lol. where do you live exatly? im real close to malfunction junction. lol.

Hes down in BFE in wesley chapel. SR 54