Methanol nozzle placement

[grimreaper]

tunning, keep boost levles safe (15psi as prescribed by respected members on here).

tekedus said water had little to no affect on his af ratios but %'s of meth did.

you can blow a mhg man, its still a 7m

 

[3.0 GT]

ijs setup is waht you NEED to do with a ffim. There are several 2j threads with guys waisting motors with a single nozzle in front of the tb due to lack of flow to the #1 cylinder.

ken your killing me man, when did you get meth?!? now i have to get it...

good thing with the maft pro is you can pull the timing you add in with decreasing the airflow singnal. REALLY hodge podge now that ive seen a few cars tuned full standalone.

Feels slower is really hard to "diagnose" if you will. bigger turbo, higher boost (higher then stock) and i wouldnt dream of running anything less then 91/93. If you really feel the difference then thank your lucky stars knock control is saving your HG . there is a limit to how much the stock tccs can pull but from my logs, you SHOULD notice if it was pulling 10*. -5* made a HUGE difference on spool up and top end when i was messing with timing control on the m-pro. Seriously HUGE from back to back pulls.

Ken stick the nozzle a few inches in front of the tb, Your AIT is upstream of that and you should be fine. Im considering straight water for an added cooling affect at the top of 4th. My Egt's hit 1600 easily with any sort of hill at 11: 1 af ratio at 16psi...

tunning, keep boost levles safe (15psi as prescribed by respected members on here).

tekedus said water had little to no affect on his af ratios but %'s of meth did.

you can blow a mhg man, its still a 7m

haha yeah i guess so, but i guess ill get some tuning stuff. x-mas is coming yeaahh!!!. thanks for the advice.

 

[CajunKenny]

ken your killing me man, when did you get meth?!? now i have to get it...

Yeah, right now AEM has a sale on the kit until the end of the year. It was at such a great price I couldn't pass it up. And I'm not joking about that either!

You SHOULD definitely get it! Then we'll have almost the exact same setup. Not that we're copying each other; but, it would still be cool!

good thing with the maft pro is you can pull the timing you add in with decreasing the airflow singnal. REALLY hodge podge now that ive seen a few cars tuned full standalone.

Ken stick the nozzle a few inches in front of the tb, Your AIT is upstream of that and you should be fine. Im considering straight water for an added cooling affect at the top of 4th. My Egt's hit 1600 easily with any sort of hill at 11: 1 af ratio at 16psi...

Go check out AEM's website and watch the new pump video and see if you think it's still a good idea to mount it a few inches from the TB. That would certainly be easy and far enough away from my AIT and BOV to keep them safe; but, I'm wondering if there would be enough room for the air to ~evenly disperse the spray. Or am I just over thinking that one?

1600*!?!?! Whoa! I'd probably pee my pants seeing that? Where's the probe mounted?

I would think that water can only help. Would you run distilled?

 

[upgradedsupra]

tunning, keep boost levles safe (15psi as prescribed by respected members on here).

tekedus said water had little to no affect on his af ratios but %'s of meth did.

you can blow a mhg man, its still a 7m

You can do that on any engine. Safety margin is good idea.



Ken, hope to see you at the meet next year!

 

[grimreaper]

distilled, yes. Probes in the flange on the turbo. Guess i should add i hit 1550 or so at 5500rpms and it slowly increases till redline. right at the limit perhaps? havent crossed1600 that in can see though

add it further upstream then so it can "atomize" if thats what the video shows. (didnt look at it) You do have some room for trial and error with the stock layout..

 

[CajunKenny]

Yeah, atomization and even-distribution is what I was concerned about. I still have to get the timing control setup. Been slacking with that. Once the engine is back in, I'll do that.

Ken, hope to see you at the meet next year!

I'll be there as long as the supra holds together! :biglaugh:

 

[grimreaper]

put it a foot or so befor ethe tb then, Id get onto snow meth injections forum. They have some good info from what i can tell

 

[Mike Morris]

Use my washer tank and use a 50 50 mix on mine for the last 3 years at 24 psi on pump gas with stock pistons.

 

[CajunKenny]

^That's what I'm talking about!

I'm all stock internals with the exception of an MHG and ARP's.

 

[Mike Morris]

You will be fine!! Gl!!

 

[grimreaper]

any pics of the tank? id like to see what you did for the pump feed line.

 

[tekdeus]

Tekdeus: Your running the 48/52 mix? Im so undecided on what i want to run, i want the benefits of the high octane as my car will never see race fuel in the tank and im looking for big power. So i read up and it seems some people like 100% and some people like 50%.

Any experience with other kits other then the AEM, like snow or cooling mist?

I see you got up to 22psi, your still on TCCS right? What kind of IAT's were you seeing? Any idea what kind of timing you were running at that boost level? How much does your injection alter fuel ratio?

Im lookin for 25 psi pump gas with methanol inj, 500+ Tire power.

Yes, still running stock ECU with SAFC. I think we pulled 8-10% more fuel with the 50/50 mix and the biggest AEM nozzle. The kit made it around 1.0 AFR richer at WOT. With stock timing at the dyno on a hot day it started to knock around 24-25 psi. We then played with the base timing a bit and dropped it 1 or 2 degrees below stock. I keep the boost around 21-22 on the street. Not sure of the IAT's, I have no sensor. I think to push 25 psi safely on pump and meth requires a standalone and proper tuning.

When I hit 515rwhp I simply spiked my pump gas with 50% C16, and upped the boost to 26-28 psi. Gas, water, methanol, lead. Quite a cocktail! :biglaugh:

 

[upgradedsupra]

^ It was also 100 degrees outside too! :aigo:

 

[grimreaper]

LMAO thats one spiked drink there tekdeus!

 

[TurboStreetCar]

Yes, still running stock ECU with SAFC. I think we pulled 8-10% more fuel with the 50/50 mix and the biggest AEM nozzle. The kit made it around 1.0 AFR richer at WOT. With stock timing at the dyno on a hot day it started to knock around 24-25 psi. We then played with the base timing a bit and dropped it 1 or 2 degrees below stock. I keep the boost around 21-22 on the street. Not sure of the IAT's, I have no sensor. I think to push 25 psi safely on pump and meth requires a standalone and proper tuning.

When I hit 515rwhp I simply spiked my pump gas with 50% C16, and upped the boost to 26-28 psi. Gas, water, methanol, lead. Quite a cocktail! :biglaugh:

Nice numbers, thanks man. I got the 8860 so tuning flexibility is of no issue. I cant wait to get a kit and get tuned. Im going to wait till spring though.

Are you using the bypass pump?