HID Bi-Xenon, 5000k vs Hella Halogen, Pics!

[GrimJack]

Ok folks, these are taken one day apart, but after full dark in both cases.

The picture from yesterday was with the Hella Halogens still installed.

The picture from today was with the HID Bi-Xenon, 5000k kit installed.

Both are using the same housings, these are the Hella E-code version.

The small pictures link to full size versions with all the camera information still embedded in the photo, in case anyone wants to check my settings. Both were taken on manual, with the same settings - F/8, 1 sec exposure, 80 ISO. On to the pics!

Hella Halogens:


HID Bi-Xenon, 5000k

 

[Jeff Lange]

What type of bulbs were the Halogens?

 

[bowsercake]

Halogen isn't bad but the HID is a lot brighter. Any pics of the hellas with better halogen lights?

 

[GrimJack]

The Halogens were the ones included in the original Hella kit, authentic Hella bulbs and housings. I don't think Halogens come much better than that.

 

[Poodles]

not unless you rewire...

even then they're not gonna come close to a HID...

 

[Jeff Lange]

The Halogens were the ones included in the original Hella kit, authentic Hella bulbs and housings. I don't think Halogens come much better than that.

Those are 55/65w bulbs. Hella makes better ones, as do some other companies.

I have Hella 90/130w bulbs in the Supra and Osram 100/160w bulbs in the AE86.

 

[rodel]

Are you using the hella bi-xenon lamp? If so, could you show pics of it mounted on the car?

But you mentioned E code. So are you using the lamp below? If so, how are you accomplishing bi-xenon since this lamp does not have a retracting shield for high beam. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Thanks!

 

[iwannadie]

Wow, I want that light setup. Tell us what you used and how so I can spend more money lol.

 

[IJ.]

Dave: 35 or 55 watt kit?

 

[Fletch124]

Wow, I want that light setup. Tell us what you used and how so I can spend more money lol.

:werd:

 

[shaeff]

Are you using the hella bi-xenon lamp? If so, could you show pics of it mounted on the car?
[img/]http://www.rallylights.com/hella/hella%20images/Bi_Xenon.jpg[/img]

But you mentioned E code. So are you using the lamp below? If so, how are you accomplishing bi-xenon since this lamp does not have a retracting shield for high beam. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Thanks!
[img/]http://www.rallylights.com/hella/hella%20images/21001ob.jpg[/img]

Grim is using an EasySee bi-xenon kit. there was a group buy a month or two ago in the Approved Group Buy section. the bulbs have their own motors/retractors so you can use them in the e-code housings.

i have a set, too, but mine's 6000k, and i got the fog light kit as well. (they'll be going in my '94 toyota pickup, as i have popup NSX lights going in my car)

Dave- they look really good!

-shaeff

 

[KeithH]

This is a perfect illustration of why you should not put HID bulbs into a non HID ready housing. Take a look at all of the light that is being shone above the cutoff. This is BAD for other drivers.

If you're gonna do this then you should also upgrade your housings to something that was made for the HID bulb.

 

[Ckanderson]

Why^?

If you look above the cutoff thier is some bleading thru, but not much. The real problem is when people put normal style hid bulbs in a h4 housing, i.e. running high beams all the time.

With that small amount of bleeding, I'd say he's doing just fine.

 

[figgie]

Why^?

If you look above the cutoff thier is some bleading thru, but not much. The real problem is when people put normal style hid bulbs in a h4 housing, i.e. running high beams all the time.

With that small amount of bleeding, I'd say he's doing just fine.

I am going to disagee. TThe cutoff has some but that is not the issue here. My concern would be the light going to the side. Looks just as bright as the center. Cut off or not that will be glare inducing for the oncoming traffic.

 

[3p141592654]

I agree, that light will fail even the US DOT VOR/L intensity requirements and more importantly, cause severe glare to oncoming drivers.

 

[HIDPLANET]

It could be much worse but there is a significant amount of light leaking above the cutoff causing glare. Good thing is you went with quality housings...ebay housings would be 200% worse with glare.

The key to using HID capsules in a reflective housing is to use an underbelly shield, cutting out light from hitting the bottom of the housing shining light upward.

 

[IJ.]

It could be much worse but there is a significant amount of light leaking above the cutoff causing glare. Good thing is you went with quality housings...ebay housings would be 200% worse with glare.

The key to using HID capsules in a reflective housing is to use an underbelly shield, cutting out light from hitting the bottom of the housing shining light upward.

Would a coat of Matt Black paint on the inside floor of the housing help this issue?

 

[slowsupratt]

but atleast he will be able to see better

 

[shaeff]

but atleast he will be able to see better

that won't help when people start crashing into him because THEY cannot see...

i admit i didn't realize that the bleeding light shown is enough to cause glare problems. i'll have to figure out something else for my truck, as they're mounted quite a bit higher than a normal car.

-shaeff

 

[CRE]

Are those RHD or LHD lenses?