HID Bi-Xenon, 5000k vs Hella Halogen, Pics!

GrimJack

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Rodel:
The HIDs are generic H4 replacements. They use an actuator to move the bulb, giving you both high and low beams from a single HID bulb.

IJ:
35 watt kit, nothing special. :D

Keith:
The bleed over isn't as bad as it looks, I'm taking a long exposure, that's a full second. I had to guess at the exposure time the night before, with the halogens still installed, so I picked something that made them look a little dim. If I can find some quality housings made for HID lights, I'll probably buy them too, if I don't switch to projectors before then.

Figgie:
The light to the side won't be an issue, I aim mine low enough that oncoming traffic is always above the cutoff. I suppose this might still be a problem in mountains where the road isn't flat, but I live on a flat ass flood plain - there aren't even any overpasses in my area.

CRE: LHD lenses.

I haven't had a chance to try them in the dark on a road yet... and I would be very interested to see how they compare to a vehicle equipped with HIDs from the factory. I just need to find someone local that I can line up in the same place and take another pic with the same settings...
 

Poodles

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the glare is more than likely not from the headlight istelf but the surfaces being lit (ground, glossly paint on the garage door)

I haven't installed mine yet (FINALLY finished my cooling system overhaul today), but they'll look the same (same kit as you and same housings)

Keep in mind that is LESS glare than a normal sealed beam!
 

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GrimJack said:
Figgie:
The light to the side won't be an issue, I aim mine low enough that oncoming traffic is always above the cutoff. I suppose this might still be a problem in mountains where the road isn't flat, but I live on a flat ass flood plain - there aren't even any overpasses in my area.

Not to mention, generally speaking, OEM HID's have MUCH more light on the sides than that, your H4 housings are directing more of the light to the centre of the beam pattern than OEM HID projectors.

That being said, there is still a bit more glare than I'd find acceptable for myself, though it's not TOO bad.

If I ever go HID, it will be with a projector lens.
 

Jeff Lange

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Some OEM HID setups, for comparison:

goodcutoff.jpg

original.jpg
 

HIDPLANET

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IJ. said:
Would a coat of Matt Black paint on the inside floor of the housing help this issue?

It may help, but wouldnt cure the problem. A lot of the glare comes from the lower half of the rear reflector. So you could paint the floor and the bottom half of the reflector but that would kill your high beams. Mike T bought an underbelly shield and OEM components from me a while back and took pictures....decent cutoff for a reflector with minimal glare.

stock-vs-hid.jpg
 

HIDPLANET

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It is an underbelly shield that fits into a H4 Socket on the headlamp.
This adapter allows you to run a standard D2S burner inside the H4 headlamp. (not a rebased aftermarket HID bulb)
the adapters also have an underbelly shield, cutting off light to the bottom half of the headlamp reducing glare significantly. It is clearly seen from a front view (which I do not have a pic of) that little light hits the bottom half of the headlamp because only the top half is lit. This is a good indicator that you have minimal glare because you see a lot of headlamps like ours where the entire rectangle lens is lit...which is not a desired thing. Another thing to add is that people need to really consider using Hella e-code headlamps or similar. The performance of the lighting system is greatly dependent of the quality of the headlamp itself and cheap knock offs or diamond clear ones will yield poor results.

One drawback to using a genuine D2S bulbs is there is no high beam function. Although you can ask people who have gone this route, that highs are rarely missed when improving light my this magnitude.

I can post pictures of my adapters but they are not on the site as of yet and I will not be back in town for a week or so.
 

tissimo

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looks good... I think the glare is from the ground mostly(similar to the factory hid's jeff posted on the garage).. I'm sure there is some bleeding on the top though.. Nothing worse then peoples unadjusted lights that roll around..

Look at the side near the garbage can.. above the cutoff is fairly dark, minimal glare seen..
 

Poodles

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borrowing the g/f's camera tonight and will take pic (will also say that HID's in your fogs without blinders is BAD, I made new blinders it was seriously bad enough to blind people)
 

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Poodles said:
(will also say that HID's in your fogs without blinders is BAD, I made new blinders it was seriously bad enough to blind people)

it's too bad most people won't believe you, and they'll remove the sheilds anyway. :( (though, it is the truth, of course)

-shaeff
 

GrimJack

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A bit of an update from me - I've been driving with these for a while now, passed hundreds of people at night, and haven't been flashed once.

I'm wondering if they put 'polite juice' in the water here - I've been flashed for my helmet light on my mountain bike here before!
 

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I had some guy flash me on my Mountain bike so I flashed him back and he went psycho till he figured out I wasn't a kid and was going to put him in hospital if he wanted to escalate things..... ;)