Adjuster said:
Global warming as a theory is proven false. (As far as it's being caused by man in anycase.)
Says who specifically? I am still waiting for anyone thats not in it for the money to say it. Take your time here and try and find some.
Warming and cooling trends in Earth's climate are normal, and outside of the 90,000 year ice age cycle, have a more moderate 1,500 to 2,000 year swing of cooler and warmer years. (The 90k cycles cover places like Europe and North America with thick sheets of ice, but the warmer/cooler trends are more moderate with just a few degrees of change from "average" either way.)
Not in despute here, at least with me anyways,,,LMAO... . But the
rate of temperature increase is off the chart when compared to recent solar activity which seems to be on the decrease. This is my entire point here.
Again, this is a given and not in dispute, but there are other factors involved!
C02 levels have nothing to do with climate change in the long term.
Are you talking years or 10, 100, 1000 or 1,000,000? Pick your scale and we can wait here and see I guess...kinda pointless untill it happends or not. Most scientists NOW disagree with you here. Sorry..
Al Gore is still an idiot. (An inconvienent truth for him I'm sure...)
This is your opinion and not worth commenting on really as he is not a scientist or here to defend himself. I for one have only seen short clips of his movie. I hear he actually sound like a human and not a robot.
Here's another thing to discuss.
Big oil supports greenpeace and others like them.
Prove me wrong.
Your not wrong but it's called a tax break as GP is non profit!!! :biglaugh:
Here's some ammo.
1) Who is to benefit from "scarce" oil supplies?
2) Who is to benefit from laws that limit hydrocarbon drilling, production and use?
3) Who knows that hydrocarbons are not fossil fuels, but would quickly lose all ability to charge whatever they want if the masses know and understand that hydrocarbons are plentiful, and everywhere on the planet?
Chew on that for awhile.
Ok, I will
1) Its called supply and demand!!! Big oil and anyone involved with oil, gas, coal, car companies and yes maybe even insurance companies benefit from higher prices and record crushing profits in my opinion..
ExxonMobil said its second-quarter profits rose 36% on higher energy prices and better refining margins.
The world's largest public oil company reported today a net profit of $10.4 billion, the second-largest quarterly profit ever recorded by a publicly traded company.
For the second quarter, BP booked record profits of $7.3 billion, 30 percent higher than those announced for the second quarter of 2005. Revenues were $74 billion...IN PROFITS.
2) I think a safe answer would be "everyone on this planet" in the long run. That's just me though.
3) Not sure where your going here?
Here is one definition:
"An organic chemical compound of hydrogen and carbon, called petroleum. The molecular structure of hydrocarbon compounds varies from the simplet, methane (CH4), a constituent of natural gas, to the very heavy and very complex. Octane, for example, a constituent of crude oil, is one of the heavier, more complex molecules."
Crude oil was made over millions of years from tiny plants and animals, called plankton. The plankton on the left would form oil in about 150 million years time if the sea bed is not disturbed. The plankton that lived in the Jurassic period made our crude oil.
This was the time of the dinosaurs. It was about 180,000,000 years ago.
When plankton die, they fall to the bottom of the sea.
The plankton are trapped under many layers of sand and mud. Over millions of years, the dead animals and plants got buried deeper and deeper. The heat and pressure gradually turned the mud into rock and the dead animals and plants into oil and gas.
Coal is a combustible mineral formed from organic matter (mostly plant material) that lived about 300 million years ago (during the Pennsylvanian Period ). During the Pennsylvanian Period, the earth was covered with huge swampy forests of giant ferns, horsetails, and club mosses. As layer upon layer of these plants died, they were compressed and covered with soil, stopping the decomposition process, forming peat.
Peat is an accumulation of partially decayed vegetable matter. Peat forms in wetlands or peatlands, variously called bogs, moors, muskegs, mires, tropical swamp forests and fens.
This gets into evolution and I think I know how you feel about this one.
Still hungry here man...
Do you want me to name some scientists that don't get paid by the oil companies or government grants and actually have an education in their field and work on global climate studies here on this planet that say MMGW is real?
Just ask, the list is a long one...
