Costs in 7mgte vs 2jzgte

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drumminforev

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drjonez said:
not sure what planet you're living on, but a good condition stock 7M will handle just as much HP as the 2J. the biggest problem w/the 7M is lack of maintenance.....any 2J you see is quite a bit newer than the 7M in your car w/200k on it.

as for costs, you'll spend far more to swap in a 2JZ-GTE + electronics than it will cost to build the heck out of a 7M.
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It will cost about $8500 for a fully built 7m swap. And it would cost about the same for a 2jz swap installed.

Lack of maintenance wont be considered in this because both will be freshly rebuilt. Why did toyota go through 2 more generations of motors if the 7m is fully capable of the same?
 
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If you want a 2JZ get a MKIV.
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tell that to the countless people that have put a 2j into a MKIII. its your car, do with it as you wish. i could care less if you put a honda motor in there. if you think that it is more cost friendly, then do so.

oh, BTW i would run the 2j off of 1j electronics. they plug in better to the MKIII chassis.
 
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Someone with some knowledge of tuning
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400hp.
Do your research. If you think a stock internal'd 7M can't handle that, you have alot of learning to do.
 
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drumminforev

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This is going into a mk2 anyway. I don't fit in a mk3 unless I crank the seat back 180 degrees, ganster style.

So you are saying i can reliably (for more than 1 year) have 400hp without any oil system upgrades, no machine work, stock radiator, and stock turbo, stock pistons rods and valvetrain. Not ever having to worry and driving as hard as i want...

Why do you have to sound like a cocky bastard anyway? Like you are the shit because you know stuff....of course i have a lot of learning to do....thats why i am HERE in the first place
 
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MassSupra89 said:
7M +
Intake & exhaust
LEX AFM
550's
SAFC
Walbro

Someone with some knowledge of tuning
=
400hp.
Do your research. If you think a stock internal'd 7M can't handle that, you have alot of learning to do.
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link to stock CT26 turbo cars with 400hp?
 
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drumminforev said:
It will cost about $8500 for a fully built 7m swap. And it would cost about the same for a 2jz swap installed.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh. swapping into a MKII....

if you compare the 7M and the J block, there are several similar things:

-bulletproof block
-same construction crank
-same construction rods

the BIG difference comes in the head design....which won't matter unless you're going for a gazillion HP (ok fine, anything above 600ish....).

pistons- 7M having cast, 2J has coated hypereutectic pistons, i'm unsure about the 1J.


drumminforev said:
Lack of maintenance wont be considered in this because both will be freshly rebuilt. Why did toyota go through 2 more generations of motors if the 7m is fully capable of the same?
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they really went through 1 more gen- the J block. the J block was DESIGNED to be a forced induction engine....the 7M got it more as an afterthought.

personally, i'd throw a 1J in a MKII and rev it to 10k.
 
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"How does u not need to be fully built? stock pistons, rods, fuel, intercooler, oil pump, etc will not handle 400whp on a 7m for long"

"It will cost about $8500 for a fully built 7m swap."


Drumminforev, please stop with the mis-information. I have been running over 3 years with over 400rwhp on stock internals. And the cost of a fully built 7M is closer to $3000 depending on parts used and what you want done.
 
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"the BIG difference comes in the head design....which won't matter unless you're going for a gazillion HP"

Actually the head design in the 2JZ is not that great also. Most heads from Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi are much higher flowing than the 2JZ head.
 
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drumminforev

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Because i have a fro and i dont like the feeling of my fro being squished against the roof every time i drive, having to pick it out again.
 
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drumminforev

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MRSUPRA said:
"How does u not need to be fully built? stock pistons, rods, fuel, intercooler, oil pump, etc will not handle 400whp on a 7m for long"

"It will cost about $8500 for a fully built 7m swap."


Drumminforev, please stop with the mis-information. I have been running over 3 years with over 400rwhp on stock internals. And the cost of a fully built 7M is closer to $3000 depending on parts used and what you want done.
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I dont plan on robbing the local performance shop. Please show me your parts and costs to how you only spent $3000 for a reliable 'over 400whp' 7m
 
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