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Thats why im sticking with my stock 1jz stock twins set up, might not spend so much money to get some extra upgrades here and there. That will keep me happy :)
 
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I wouldn't be to worried about my car being a good "daily driver", its going to be just my toy. I know i sound crazy but i wish my car was scary fast. I mean it's fast now (not this very moment seeing how its broke) it gets loose through third on 5 lbs and my old 88 mazda rx-7 wasn't fast but i sure slid it fast, im not trying to be cocky but driver mod is what i started on first,so driving the car wouldn't be my problem it would be getting there. Seeing as im a limited mechanic, i mean i changed the turbo (easy bolt on affair) and the intercooler + piping and i take car of all my spark plug changes + oil changes but engine internals is a different affair. That's why im here;) I want to take the 7M higher, i want progress within our community and progress means going above whats said to be possible. Im just wondering where is that bar set?
 
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supramk3speed;1223182 said:
I wouldn't be to worried about my car being a good "daily driver", its going to be just my toy. I know i sound crazy but i wish my car was scary fast. I mean it's fast now (not this very moment seeing how its broke) it gets loose through third on 5 lbs and my old 88 mazda rx-7 wasn't fast but i sure slid it fast, im not trying to be cocky but driver mod is what i started on first,so driving the car wouldn't be my problem it would be getting there. Seeing as im a limited mechanic, i mean i changed the turbo (easy bolt on affair) and the intercooler + piping and i take car of all my spark plug changes + oil changes but engine internals is a different affair. That's why im here;) I want to take the 7M higher, i want progress within our community and progress means going above whats said to be possible. Im just wondering where is that bar set?
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As you drive with say, 300 hp, then 400 for example, the driver mod will have to be addressed each time you go up in power. Driving an 800, 900 or 1000 hp car is much different than you may think.

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Yeah i guess i can't say till i get there. First step in being a good driver is to leave fear behind but keep it near you. Like not freezing up and just saying "Jesus take the wheel!" Fear can keep you from being too stupid, and it can make you stupid. I have fear that allows me to make good driving decisions, not the kind that tells you to freeze up and crash! I feel that making descisions that could either send you into trees upside down because you got scared and locked the brakes or sliding that corner perfectly because you kept on flooring that beast are the kind of decisions that let you know if you really got it. It's like seeing someone shoot a building up on the news and seeing people flee while the person murders countless people, you say if i was there i would have tackled that phsycho but you really NEVER know till you are in that situation. So yes i believe you are right because i have not yet been in a car producing such figures.
 
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If you have enough time & money to build a 7MGTE past 1000hp
Why not buy this instead.
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By the way there is no way in hell to build a 1000hp 7MGTE on mostly stock internals like the JZ series engine. Lets just say toyota overbuilt the JZ series off the line.

If you want to commit suicide with an overbuilt vehicle power to weight ratio, buy this production made street bike Y2K http://www.marineturbine.com/motorcycles.asp
 
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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE;1229149 said:
If you have enough time & money to build a 7MGTE past 1000hp
Why not buy this instead.
By the way there is no way in hell to build a 1000hp 7MGTE on mostly stock internals like the JZ series engine. Lets just say toyota overbuilt the JZ series off the line.

If you want to commit suicide with an overbuilt vehicle power to weight ratio, buy this production made street bike Y2K
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The fact is, the a 2J won't handle 1000HP either, keep it real. :3d_frown:


The Skyline doesn't have 1000 hp ;) and..it would cost much more for that car than what it would cost for a Supra making this 1000 HP.

Here is your Skyline.. You just need to change the tags. :D
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/\Agreed. Here we go again with these dreamers thinking that all you have to do is put on a big single turbo to get 1000rwhp out of a 2JZ.
 
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A 1kwrwhp ANYTHING doesn't happen cheaply or easily.... :nono:
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i had to explain that one to my wife, we watched a dyno of a 1300rwhp supra and she asked why i wont get that much power out of my motor. i told i her i cant afford 1300hp.
 
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I blame much of the current wave of stupidity on Unreality TV build shows.....

"Here just bolt this on here and and quick tweak there and 5 minutes later you'll have 1500rwhp in your Geo Metro"
 
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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE;1229149 said:
By the way there is no way in hell to build a 1000hp 7MGTE on mostly stock internals like the JZ series engine. Lets just say toyota overbuilt the JZ series off the line.
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They would both have the stock steel crank and stock block with a worked head.
 
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The 2JZ is still easier. No head gasket worries (OEM is fine), No oiling worries (OEM is fine), no need for studs (OEM is fine). Fact is there are many 600-800whp 2jzs running un-opened OEM long blocks. The engine IS better. Heck just look at the number of BPU powered cars running 400-500 rwhp that last almost as well as stock. This is due to the motor being designed better. Read any thread here about what recommendations people have for running even 350 whp...

I personally would always choose a "square" motor, which has equal bore and stroke (like the 2jz) over a stroker style motor like the 7m anyday. You also have to remember that the piston speed of the 7M will be higher for a given RPM so the motor will not be able to rev nearly as well as the JZ...

To each his own but I know which motor I would pick to have at 600 hp every day if I was starting from scratch...

PS - I do own a 7m and think its a great motor, but the facts easily show the 2jz is a much cheaper (assuming you already have the motor) way to make big power reliably.
 
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I was just in a 1000rwhp pump-gas 98octane Commodore VY SS (5.7L V8) which would come onto full boost at about 3000rpm and I almost went blind at just how insanely fast a car with that much power is.

He's got it as a street legal track car and on 30psi with 1000hp its just outright insane.

I think people need to think twice before thinking seriously about a 1000hp anything... It'll be a lot more than you ever thought.
 
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"The 2JZ is still easier. No head gasket worries (OEM is fine), No oiling worries (OEM is fine), no need for studs (OEM is fine). Fact is there are many 600-800whp 2jzs running un-opened OEM long blocks. The engine IS better. Heck just look at the number of BPU powered cars running 400-500 rwhp that last almost as well as stock. This is due to the motor being designed better. Read any thread here about what recommendations people have for running even 350 whp..."

Please..Ok for the record I was running around with 400+rwhp on my stock 7M for 4 years with NO mythical oiling issues. Yes it had a metal headgasket (which everyone can agree that it needs one), but other than that it was internally stock. And for the record there is at least one 7M running around with over 700rwhp on stock internals also. So what does that prove? Nothing. And niether does pointing out a bunch of MK4 owners that throw gobs of money into a newer, less abused car.
Until we can get more MK3 owners who can put money into there car at will in a quest to make carzy hp numbers, we will never know how well a 7M will hold up to the 1Krwhp mark. And guess what... That will never happen.
 
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supradjza80;1229532 said:
The 2JZ is still easier. No head gasket worries (OEM is fine), No oiling worries (OEM is fine), no need for studs (OEM is fine). Fact is there are many 600-800whp 2jzs running un-opened OEM long blocks.
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:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: Considering there aren't many 2JZGTE powered cars in the US, I don't even see how that is possible. If I hadn't read things Obama said, that would be the funniest thing I have read in a while. 1000 hp, and no headgasket worries. You guys kill me. Unless you want to change what you said.


You know just enough to get yourself into trouble, so I leave it at that.
 
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How did this thread go from 1000 hp "7M" to a pissing contest?

Ok, enough of this crap, keep the thread 7M related and make your own thread on a 2J would ya, geez. :3d_frown:


Back ON topic please.
 
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