Why is the 2jzgte so much better?
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suprahabsfan;1000835 said:
1j and 2j are made out of slightly different metals then the 7m
Larger bore diameter removes the Valve size restriction
Because the 2jz is gods balls. Its also a much better engineered motor. It also probably has less miles and has usually been kept better due to the price range of the car that it is in.
HommerSimpson;1000945 said:
The issue is not how much power it's capable of making, it's how much you beat on it.
If you want to actually PUT DOWN a regular 800hp every day, you need a train engine or something similarly large and durable.
A 1200hp engine might be able to last 100k miles if theres a grandmother driving it around. After a track day at that power level, though, any normal car engines are going to wear pretty badly...
Believe it or not, most supercars like ferraris etc don't actually last that long mileage-wise. Not without rebuilds and a lot of money.
My 1J block and all internals were cast from Adamantium. I tried to rev it to 40k running 30psi on 87 octane with a CR of 14:1 and I still couldn't break it.
I dunno what kinda engines you guys got.
I dunno what kinda engines you guys got.
miekedmr;1001072 said:
Well im talking a daily driver that if you needed to with push of a button could lay down 800 hp... but other wise have tuned for street...but yes get on it now and then .. as for instance im supra is my dd...and i drive 44miles round trip just to work on pretty much strait open road...
Now just what does it take to make a 2J put down say 800 hp and be reliable and a good DD...After what IJ said .. im going to re rebuild this new pistons bore it crank ground and rods redone... then im gona save for 2J no if ands or butts about it... :}
O and im going to put the fucking rods in right this time.....
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IJ.;1001062 said:
about the metal ya i forgot what it is they used in the metal but it helped fix the bhg problem along with metal head gaskets look in to it
miekedmr makes a good point as most of the failures I've had in the past 6 years have been in trying to get the reliability/longevity I desire at my Hp level and to suit my driving style/car use.
Every single time I drive my car it will see a full boost pull to redline at least one (when it's running correctly that is)
In the past this was often 8300 rpm and 30 Psi and parts do fail.
I also will drive the car a 1000 Km's a day on the weekends so it needs to be reliable.
For me the cutoff point seems to be around the 500rwhp mark, I know there are a lot of guys making much more Hp but I also think if driven like my car they'd suffer the same failures as I did.
There has been no expense spared in my motor and it's been carefully assembled each time.
Every single time I drive my car it will see a full boost pull to redline at least one (when it's running correctly that is)
In the past this was often 8300 rpm and 30 Psi and parts do fail.
I also will drive the car a 1000 Km's a day on the weekends so it needs to be reliable.
For me the cutoff point seems to be around the 500rwhp mark, I know there are a lot of guys making much more Hp but I also think if driven like my car they'd suffer the same failures as I did.
There has been no expense spared in my motor and it's been carefully assembled each time.
thats the biggest thing right there, the ability to rev. 8k on a stock bottom isn't uncommon, and 9000+ on a built engine with headwork isn't crazy. When you have a big ass turbo that doesn't go fulltilt till 5500+ you want to have more then 7000-7500 (of a built 7m's) head room...Poodles;1000893 said:
That happened while I was drag racing against Magneto. He used his power to screw up my motor. I swear.
ive been stomping on my 7m for years now and have never had a problem as a result. whats your point joe? Ive never experienced rod knock either in all the years ive owned supras.
The only thing that makes it less reliabile in my opinion the age of these cars.
I love both engines, Hearing a mkiii or mkiv roaring past me always gives me a rush. Id like to own both gens one day i don't have a favourite.
The only thing that makes it less reliabile in my opinion the age of these cars.
I love both engines, Hearing a mkiii or mkiv roaring past me always gives me a rush. Id like to own both gens one day i don't have a favourite.
HommerSimpson;1000945 said:
There are some 1000hp DD's but then again think about one of the variables mentioned earlier...money.
You can not have more than 2 of these 3 at any time...
FAST
CHEAP
RELIABLE
But then again all of these are also opinions inwhich means they can all be taken in differently. An SRT4 is fast to an average non turbo neon guy. An Evo is expensive to the average NA Eclipse guy and a Honda is reliable to the average MK3 guy.
It all depends on where you stand in the crowd and on the payroll that decides how you feel on these.
Also
I have an issue of Sport Compact Car with 4 crazy hp Supras(mkiv's) but I'm not sure which issue:
One was a 1000hp with stock brakes.
One was a +1000hp DD with over 100K miles on it.
One was an +1300hp that ran 8.2 second.
One was a 800hp DD built by the same guy that built 2 of the other 3
MaJiKaL TaNk;1001139 said:
well 800hp is number im talking about.. how hard is it to get 800hp out of a
2J ?and be DD
