What do you think about Eagle Rods

[Junior]

titanium on it's own isn't all that strong, it's all in the alloy. If I remember my metallurgy properly, it's chromium and vanadium alloyed in abnormally large proportions (like 3-4% of each) that makes the Titanium strong.

it's been more than a year since I looked at that shit tho and my memory sucks, so don't quote me on the %'s, but I do recall that the alloy is the most important part with titanium.

 

[marc3]

just to make sure, i'm looking at my eagle rod bolts,
say's:eagle arp 1.5 2000.
are these the good arp bolts , or cheaper arp bolts?

 

[pimptrizkit]

is nate still using eagle rods??

 

[kwnate]

Yes...

 

[Kai]

Thing is, if you go for Pauter rods - dont you need to do some machine work to the bottoms of the bores?

 

[TurboStreetCar]

nate runs eagles? shit, that did it, im sold.

 

[gilberjj]

haha, no kidding. if eagles can hold 843 whp, then they can easily hold my 500

 

[Doward]

nate runs eagles? shit, that did it, im sold.

:3d_frown: I understand the thinking behind statements like this - "It's been tried before, and works" but man... do some thinking outside the box, guys! Dare to try something different, based on your own thoughts/research/conclusions!


Rich, I don't know how I missed that pic! (I think after I said my piece in here, I left it for the reader to decide, lol) - The Pauters are a better rod than the Eagles, in design, and yes, they are heavier - that extra heft is part of what turned me off of them, though

 

[gilberjj]

that extra heft is part of what turned me off of them, though

heft turns me off too......

 

[IJ.]

Are you guys serious?? :nono:

 

[Kai]

Er, surely lightness has its place in other components, but doesnt heavier rotating mass = more torque??

 

[Doward]

Are you guys serious?? :nono:

LOL, yeah, unfortunately. I'm not big on extra weight where it's not needed. Granted, yes, the connecting rod would be the one place you would want the MOST strength, but the Eagles are already overkill for my application - going further is just a waste for me.

Kai: The increased weight doesn't increase torque - the only thing producing torque, is the force acting on the crankshaft, via the connecting rod.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

heh, i was just saying that to break balls. though i prolly will end up throwing them in if i decide to install rods.

 

[IJ.]

Wow talk about overjustifying a purchase......

There's maybe 100 grams difference in weight from memory.

You saved $$$ no need to try and make everyone believe that 100 grams is going to make any measurable difference at all in a street motor.

 

[Kai]

Aaah. I was under the impression that lightening the rotating mass/flywheel was a bad thing....

*confused*

 

[7M-fanatic]

Aaah. I was under the impression that lightening the rotating mass/flywheel was a bad thing....

*confused*

Only on a farm tractor........:biglaugh:

 

[gilberjj]

Wow talk about overjustifying a purchase......

There's maybe 100 grams difference in weight from memory.

You saved $$$ no need to try and make everyone believe that 100 grams is going to make any measurable difference at all in a street motor.

100 grams directly connected to the crank (if that is indeed the difference in weight) is mulitiplied several times due to being weight that is being flung around by the crank. loseing weight connected to the crank is the easiest way to attain a racecar like snappy-ness and responce...... just some food for thought

 

[IJ.]

okkkkkkkkkkkkk <backing away from this>

As I said show me a MEASURABLE difference that this makes in a street car on a dyno and I'll agree......

 

[gilberjj]

okkkkkkkkkkkkk <backing away from this>

As I said show me a MEASURABLE difference that this makes in a street car on a dyno and I'll agree......

it wouldn't nessesarily show up on the dyno, but then again a lightweight flywheel, or a one piece driveshaft doesn't really either. it just changes the engines personality. wouldn't you agree with that ij. i know you aren't one to cut corners and every bit counts. 100 grams off the rods, 800 off the crank, and a lighter flywheel all adds up to a quick revving 7m with monster torque. i think that will turn just about any sane human being on, wouldn't you agree?

 

[IJ.]

Actually no I don't agree and that's the point I'm trying to make....

If you make LARGE changes yes it makes a difference but 100 grams these AREN'T class race cars where you're trying to beat the next guy by fractions of a second.

I have nothing against using a cheaper part if available and it's proven (Nate's Eagles for instance) but to try and justify a purchase based on 100 gram difference in weight is a total wank and is misleading in that people will now run around turning into weight weanies and try and shave off grams.....