War on Drugs = failure
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Shytheed Dumas said:
lol Have you ever smoked weed? Weed has nothing to do with his brother being a lazy sack of shit.
I smoked enough to know I'm not missing out on a thing by not using anything now.
I know I've gotten waaaayyyy too much out of percocet to know that if it was readily available I would be missing out on more - like my son and my wife to start. I don't have to worry about working up a tolerance to them.
Therefore, not missing out on a thing by my estimation.
I know I've gotten waaaayyyy too much out of percocet to know that if it was readily available I would be missing out on more - like my son and my wife to start. I don't have to worry about working up a tolerance to them.
Therefore, not missing out on a thing by my estimation.
Shytheed Dumas said:
Good for you, don't smoke, doesn't bother me a bit. But why should YOU have a say in whether I can smoke or not?
Brewster that's utter b.s. (#82)
I had a great friend in highschool who got seriously carried away with pot for a while. During that time he stole from me and did some really stupid shit. He had this permanent stupid look on his face. One day he realized it he would never make it in his career, quit cold turkey and became my friend again.
I know I smoked some and knew more people who kept it casual, but if you are going to suggest that it can't be abused and can't affect others because of the abuse, then you are simply full of shit. It can and does happen.
The simple point that I was making was that abuse absolutely affects the people who love the abuser, no matter how hard people try to act like it is a victimless thing. The harder the drug, the worse it is. Please, try to disagree with this paragraph alone.
I had a great friend in highschool who got seriously carried away with pot for a while. During that time he stole from me and did some really stupid shit. He had this permanent stupid look on his face. One day he realized it he would never make it in his career, quit cold turkey and became my friend again.
I know I smoked some and knew more people who kept it casual, but if you are going to suggest that it can't be abused and can't affect others because of the abuse, then you are simply full of shit. It can and does happen.
The simple point that I was making was that abuse absolutely affects the people who love the abuser, no matter how hard people try to act like it is a victimless thing. The harder the drug, the worse it is. Please, try to disagree with this paragraph alone.
Shytheed Dumas said:
Can't disagree with that at all. Not one bit.
But it doesn's justify legislation in the least.
Brewster said:
Please anwser Brewsters one sentence above...
Jake - Theres no way ill say no, especially if its free! :biglaugh:
everyone else- it only gets outofhand when you let it.
I smoke maybe once a month now, i used to mroe often but i change seasonaly.
everyone else- it only gets outofhand when you let it.
I smoke maybe once a month now, i used to mroe often but i change seasonaly.
s383 - I went through this with SC and DT already. I think it can be said that pot can be used without abuse to a point, and prohibition can be debated to a point.
But that's not the point. The main thing I have to say on the topic of drug prohibition is that abuse affects many, not just the abuser. Look at my first post tonight. Tell me in all seriousness that I'm wrong, and give evidence to support your position.
But that's not the point. The main thing I have to say on the topic of drug prohibition is that abuse affects many, not just the abuser. Look at my first post tonight. Tell me in all seriousness that I'm wrong, and give evidence to support your position.
Shytheed Dumas said:
So because some people can't control themselves that means nobody can use it. Great logic.
And LouKY-
My mother is a raging, raging alcoholic. I raised my three younger siblings from the time I was 11 years old. Do I blame the alcohol? Should I sue wine companies?
No.
I blame my mother for being a weak waste of human flesh, who, instead of seeking the help we begged her to seek, sought solice in being passed out for most of our lives, rather than attempting to get better.
My mother is a raging, raging alcoholic. I raised my three younger siblings from the time I was 11 years old. Do I blame the alcohol? Should I sue wine companies?
No.
I blame my mother for being a weak waste of human flesh, who, instead of seeking the help we begged her to seek, sought solice in being passed out for most of our lives, rather than attempting to get better.
Supracentral said:
A fair question, and I will say it for the 10th time tonight. You say anything goes as long as it doesn't tread on anybody elses rights. I think the catalyst for the revival of this topic tonight clearly demonstrates that it does negatively affect the rights of innocent people. Are you going to contradict yourself now, or agree that prohibition of drugs that show a serious propensity for abuse should be supported by even you?
DT, you are the perfect example of people who should realize that saying nobody but the abuser suffers is wrong...
Shytheed Dumas said:
Do you think guns should be prohibited? When someone shoots someone else, that's treading pretty hard on their rights...
Shytheed Dumas said:
But I DON'T blame the alcohol, that's what I'M saying. I, or the government, should have no right to tell someone what they may or may not do in the comfort of their own home.
It was my MOTHER'S fault as a person, not the fault of alcohol, alcohol manufacturers, or anyone else who uses alcohol.
Brewster, another fair question. I've never said alcohol should be banned - it can be and is often used without abuse.
I've said pot is one illegal drug that can be used without abuse more than any other, and legalizing it should be discussed - maybe the public wants it banned as a whole, but discussed.
Firearms are used by and large for good, not evil, and should not be banned.
Cars are like firearms.
Waffle irons are like firearms.
Tweezers are like firearms.
Get it?
I've said pot is one illegal drug that can be used without abuse more than any other, and legalizing it should be discussed - maybe the public wants it banned as a whole, but discussed.
Firearms are used by and large for good, not evil, and should not be banned.
Cars are like firearms.
Waffle irons are like firearms.
Tweezers are like firearms.
Get it?
DreamerTheresa said:
And I think that's the right attitude to have. But alcohol is used responsibly by most. Coke isn't. Heroin isn't. Meth isn't. See the difference? You have to go with how the majority are able to use these substances.
Here's another senario--
McDonald's.
It really has no greater good. No nutritional value, etc.
However, it makes lots of people fat when abused.
Ban McDonald's?
McDonald's.
It really has no greater good. No nutritional value, etc.
However, it makes lots of people fat when abused.
Ban McDonald's?