To The Fucks Who Tried To Break Into My Home, On The Fourth

[RazoE]

Remind me never to plan a surprise party for you guys...

 

[iwannadie]

How does everyone feel about Attack dogs Vs. Guard dogs. I don't have a dog but know many people with them and there seems to be 2 camps.

One side wants their dog to physically go at and attack any intruder on sight.

The other sides wants their dog to be an early alarm and break in deterrent. The sound or sight of the dog should be enough to scare people off but if someone came in the dog wouldn't go running to attack.

I would be worried if my dog did go at someone they would get in the way of my shot. Although if my dog is biting off some guys arm they are no longer a threat to me so I shouldn't be shooting them anyways.

 

[SupraMario]

How does everyone feel about Attack dogs Vs. Guard dogs. I don't have a dog but know many people with them and there seems to be 2 camps.

One side wants their dog to physically go at and attack any intruder on sight.

The other sides wants their dog to be an early alarm and break in deterrent. The sound or sight of the dog should be enough to scare people off but if someone came in the dog wouldn't go running to attack.

I would be worried if my dog did go at someone they would get in the way of my shot. Although if my dog is biting off some guys arm they are no longer a threat to me so I shouldn't be shooting them anyways.

Put it this way, Ash is a very large, very quiet, but VERY dangerous dog. He is Awesome around people he knows, if he doesn't know you it takes a while for him to get used to you, but he will eventually let you into his pack. If he doesn't know you, and he knows your coming to do something AKA stepping into his territory, then you are gonna be in for a world of either Death or pain. Who ever tried to break into the house is either dead in a ditch or in a lot of pain. There was a decent amount of blood lost from that person.
That makes me feel safe that he didn't even really let them get from one room let alone half way into my home. So, Do I want a dog that barks but no bite? No, what's it going to do good when I'm not home? I want something that is going to defend his territory because he KNOWS it is his and not who ever is trying to come into it.

 

[Supracentral]

That pretty much describes our Akita's. They both defend the house and land around it. Logan (the male) takes patrolling the yard very seriously. (Birds aren't even allowed in the yard when he's out there - he clears the place out... ) When he's "on duty" is obvious, he's got this walk and bearing about him that lets you know he's busy watching the borders. Blaze (the female) is very protective of the house and doesn't like it when she can see anyone who doesn't belong.

I feel sorry for anyone who ventures into that house when they don't belong there when we aren't around. An angry Akita is not a pretty sight...

Then again, I feel sorry for anyone who ventures into the house when they don't belong there when we are around too.

 

[iwannadie]

I would be worried about the legal results of my dog killing someone in my home when I'm not there. I mean you used deadly force to defend property which doesn't fall under the deadly force laws I thought. Since you are not in immediate harm(not being home) but your dog used deadly force. It would be the same as having my pistol able to shoot by itself ha.

I'm not sure what I would find to be worse in my life, my house broken into and my TV missing or a dead 14 year old kid laying on the floor who broke into my house on a dare.

Not knocking anyones choice, just saying I have concerns with a dog that would be capable of killing an intruder when I'm not around.

 

[ret]

The way I see it is this: It all kind of goes back to what Mike was saying earlier - if you want to warn people or threaten them with a false threat, then you have no business in the game at all. Same thing applies to dogs. Sure you can have a dog that barks and growls, but when someone is actually intruding and that dog's cowering in a corner, then what? Sacrifice all your hard-earned belongings?

I'll take a dog that will attack and not let go over a dog that will bark then cower any day. Hopefully the barking will always work, but if not then you're putting your stuff, as well as your dog, at risk. Hell, if you end up in a situation where your dog killed someone, just contact PETA and tell them to send over a lawyer because your dog's life was at risk.

Mike, how easy is it to take care of your Akitas? I've been looking into a dog more recently and would prefer something relatively low maintenance, but wondering all the same.

 

[GrimJack]

Not knocking anyones choice, just saying I have concerns with a dog that would be capable of killing an intruder when I'm not around.

I agree. IMO, I don't own anything that's more valuable than a human life. If someone breaks in because they want my big screen television, they can have it.

However... if they threaten my family or friends, there is no hesitation whatsoever, they are done.

 

[Supracentral]

Mike, how easy is it to take care of your Akitas? I've been looking into a dog more recently and would prefer something relatively low maintenance, but wondering all the same.

I will never own another breed other than an Akita. To me, for me, they are the perfect dog. They are very loyal, large, capable of defending themselves, they have the right energy level for me. (They aren't hyper - they aren't lazy). There are some caveats owning an Akita:

#1 - The wolf is very strong in the Akita. It's a pack animal. You have to establish pack dominance with them early on. You can not allow an Akita to think it's in charge, if it does, it's very dangerous. If you're not willing to do this, skip the Akita because you'll just wind up getting yourself or someone else killed and/or the dog will be put down.

#2- Once you have established pack dominance with them, they are perfectly happy to play second fiddle to you and are fiercely loyal animals. They are the most loyal dogs that I've ever seen.

#3 - Akita's tend to be aggressive to other animals. So you have to socialize them at an early age. Our dogs go to Starbucks with us. They go with us when we get ice cream. People always comment on how well behaved they are. We also have two cats, they get along with them fine.

#4 - As a pack animal, they are very good around your immediate family and people they consider part of the pack. People outside the pack however can be a different matter. It all depends on how they are trained. Both Logan and Blaze have been through professional obedience training. Logan also has his AKC Canine Good Citizenship Award.

An Akita is like a firearm. It's perfectly safe to own one if you treat it with the proper level of respect.

As for "feeling bad" about someone who violated my personal space? Fuck that. Don't want to get hurt, don't break into people's homes - it's a fairly easy proposition that is entirely in the hands of the perpetrator. It's a choice they get to make and purely not my concern.

 

[SupraMario]

As for "feeling bad" about someone who violated my personal space? Fuck that. Don't want to get hurt, don't break into people's homes - it's a fairly easy proposition that is entirely in the hands of the perpetrator. It's a choice they get to make and purely not my concern.

This is why I don't give two shits if the guy, ash tore a new hole, is alive or dead or mutilated.

 

[ret]

That's exactly the kind of dog I'm looking for actually. I actually want to have a pet wolf (or wolves) at some point in my life, but that's a few years down the road when I have my own house and some land for it. I've been looking into dogs a bit more recently and I think a Rhodesian Ridgeback may be the type of dog I want.

 

[GrimJack]

That's exactly the kind of dog I'm looking for actually. I actually want to have a pet wolf (or wolves) at some point in my life, but that's a few years down the road when I have my own house and some land for it. I've been looking into dogs a bit more recently and I think a Rhodesian Ridgeback may be the type of dog I want.

Careful with the wolves. I used to know a guy who raised and crossbred wolves, and there were a *LOT* of problems there - ones that you wouldn't expect. Like the Police dog that picked up the scent of wolf on him and attacked in the middle of a chase. Beating down a German Shepard police dog isn't that tough when you're used to dealing with wolves, however, it leaves you with a bunch of really pissed off police officers carrying firearms. Same thing happened at the border between Canada and the USA with a drug dog.

 

[Supracentral]

That's exactly the kind of dog I'm looking for actually. I actually want to have a pet wolf (or wolves) at some point in my life, but that's a few years down the road when I have my own house and some land for it. I've been looking into dogs a bit more recently and I think a Rhodesian Ridgeback may be the type of dog I want.

Wolves are a bad choice. They are way too wild. And a hybrid is even worse. You take the aggression of a wolf and couple it with the complete lack of human fear of a dog and you have a problem. I owned a Siberian Husky/Wolf mix years ago. It's a dog that will continually challenge your dominance and is way too aggressive to live with humans. Do yourself a favor, give it a miss.

Dogs like the Akita have a lot of wolf in them, but it's muted to a manageable level.

 

[DreamerTheresa]

Mike, how easy is it to take care of your Akitas? I've been looking into a dog more recently and would prefer something relatively low maintenance, but wondering all the same.

The only high-maintenance part of an Akita is when their coat blows twice a year....

(not my dog)



...leaf blowers work great on a shedding Akita. Ask me how I know.

The NRA and Georgia Open Carry stickers on the doors aside...


our door mat:

We have that^ one at the front porch, another like it on one of the garage doors, and a "Dog on Premises" sign on the fence. I will not put a "Beware of Dog" sign anywhere, as many jurisdictions see that as you're admitting your dog is aggressive.

 

[Supracentral]

I suspect we're known as "those crazy gun people with the giant dogs that have a bunch of Supras and always have hot women hanging around every weekend"...

Did I mention I love my life?

 

[DreamerTheresa]

and always have hot semi-naked women hanging around every weekend"...

Did I mention I love my life?

ftfy.

 

[Supracentral]

Well you're all usually semi-naked indoors. I can only remember one night where the three of you were topless on the front porch watching fireworks... :aigo:

You know, that woman next door hasn't said a word to me since... Hmmm... This is a bonus! :evil2:

 

[4U2QUIK]

nice akita... I'm more of a bully breed guy, but I like my friends akitas nearly as much. great dogs if they like you.. lol..

 

[JDMMA70]

Reading this thread reminded me of a story i heard on the news that made me chuckle.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7528124

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Two would-be burglars are in police custody thanks to the quick actions of a 15-year-old.


One suspect is in jail, and the other is at Memorial Hermann Hospital. Kinzy Evans, 17, is still hospitalized. Charges against him are pending. The second suspect, a 16-year-old male juvenile, has been charged with burglary.

Investigators say they aren't sure whether Evans is going to make it. He was shot in both his legs and face by a 15-year-old who detectives say feared for his safety and the safety of his sister.

It happened at a home on Royal Place Court in northwest Harris County at around 2:30pm Tuesday.

"All he said was, 'Anybody seriously hurt?' and he said, 'Oh yeah, definitely,'" neighbor Renee Thompson said.


The blood on the driveway told a burglary-gone-bad story.

Deputies say the suspects broke into the home through a back window. From upstairs, the 15-year-old -- who was home with his 12-year-old sister -- heard the breaking glass and grabbed his father's automatic rifle. The burglary was soon over.

Family members rushed to the home, but the children's father, Vince Guerra, had beaten them all there. He's a Harris County Pct. 1 deputy constable and was on duty when it happened. No wonder his son knew what to do.

"We don't try to hide things from our children, and we try to give them a perspective about the way things are," Harris County Sheriff's Office Lt. Jeff Stauber said.

Within an hour, both Evans and the juvenile were in custody; they were caught at a nearby hospital while seeking help.

The juvenile was brought back to the scene, where deputies checked him for evidence and collected the rifle.

Neighbors backed what the 15-year-old did.

"I'm really glad he was able to defend himself," Thompson said.

Investigators concluded the shooting was justified.

"As parents, we protect our kids, and as an older brother, he was protecting his sister and himself," Stauber said.

Neighbors say there have been recent burglaries in the neighborhood.

Investigators said that rifle was the personal weapon of the teen's father, the deputy constable. He's been with the constable's office for 11 years and is described as a good officer.

There were some questions about whether he'd be liable for the shooting since his son had easy access to the weapon, but ABC13's legal expert says that the 15-year-old's right to protect his home and sister trumps all child firearm access laws.

Smart thinking on the kids part wonder what those thieves were thinking when they saw that AR-15 pointed at them haha sounds like the kid knew what he was aiming for too

 

[Supracentral]

Smart thinking on the kids part wonder what those thieves were thinking when they saw that AR-15 pointed at them haha sounds like the kid knew what he was aiming for too

The first thing I did with each of my kids was when they showed any interest in my firearms, I took them to the range and let them shoot the biggest pistol I had on hand at the time. For example my youngest daughter fired a large frame Colt 1911 .45 with 230grain +P ammo at 7 years old. That tends to get the point across to them that it's not a toy...

In fact, that same girl had a really interesting "what did you do last weekend" discussion with her teacher about three months later, who called me to ask if she really spent the day loading magazines for an AK-47 and then spend the rest of the day shooting them off. I told the teacher that wasn't 100% accurate, because she also loaded AR-15 magazines and shot that too. These days they'd probably have child services here....

But I digress... They were all trained in safe firearm handling and use. They are now 24, 23 and 20 years old, they all grew up in a house full of loaded guns. We never had any firearm "incidents" and they all know how to defend themselves.

That kid in the article above? Good for him.

 

[te72]

You know, I bet I wouldn't even need to take off my shoes to count the number of home invasions in Wyoming this year, the fingers on both my hands would suffice.

However, if anyone were stupid enough, we have an ~80+lb boxer that, while friendly, knows when someone's up to no good, and has no problems attempting to chew their faces off.