The (old) Official Gun Thread.

[jdub]

Open carry is legal for anyone in AZ, no permit of any kind required. You have to have a CCW to carry concealed...this means that a CCW holder can carry concealed -or- open. Any business establishment can prohibit open carry on the premise by posting a sign on the door. Currently, carry of any kind is prohibited in any establishment serving alcohol...legislation is pending to change that for CCW holders.

To get a CCW in AZ you have to attend an 8 hour class that is heavy on safety and AZ gun laws. It also includes a couple hours of range time that you have to pass.

 

[NoKittenMKIII]

Open carry is legal for anyone in AZ, no permit of any kind required. You have to have a CCW to carry concealed...this means that a CCW holder can carry concealed -or- open. Any business establishment can prohibit open carry on the premise by posting a sign on the door. Currently, carry of any kind is prohibited in any establishment serving alcohol...legislation is pending to change that for CCW holders.

To get a CCW in AZ you have to attend an 8 hour class that is heavy on safety and AZ gun laws. It also includes a couple hours of range time that you have to pass.

God, I miss the land of sun and sand.

 

[Supracentral]

I'm a member of Georgia Carry (http://georgiacarry.org), a citizens advocacy group working toward the reform of Georgia's poorly written, overly restrictive, ignored by the courts gun laws.

I just wanted to comment on our previous discussion a few posts ago about open carry by Georgia Firearms License holders in Georgia.

After a Roswell Municipal Court Marshal told a GCO member the member had to conceal his openly carried firearm, GCO brought the matter to the attention of the marshal’s supervisor and then wrote the municipal court judge a letter TODAY explaining the laws (or lack thereof) regarding open carry in Georgia. The details in the letter show that even the supervisor doesn't understand the law.

The letter is attached. Hopefully the judge knows the law and can straighten the marshall's office out.

This incident shows just how poorly the GA law is understood, not only by citizens, but by law enforcement as well, and why open carry is not something you want to do here if you don't have the time to engage in legal battles and drama with the local police.

 

[SupraMario]

Ok, so I've got the chance to buy a Taurus pt140 millennium pro .40 cal from a friend for $325, and I was wondering the pros and cons of the gun. I really don't need the gun, but he is leaving the state to train in Texas and he needs money for an Iphone so he can talk to his daughter and wife. So pros and cons please.

P.S. he said I should stress that it is the pro version.

 

[suprahero]

It looks like they cost $379.95 brand new Mario. I don't know anything about them though.
http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Handguns/Taurus/Taurus+PT140+Millenium+Pro+SS+40+Caliber+2-10

Here's one for $349.95 if it's the same gun.
http://www.riverviewsales.net/Merch...&Product_Code=1-140031P&Category_Code=PST-TAU

 

[SupraMario]

Yea I saw the cost, but he is a really close friend and I'm doing this more to help him out money wise.

 

[suprahero]

That's cool. I thought he was telling you what a great deal he was giving you........that sounds more like my friends.

 

[jdub]

Bonus: No tax and no Fed paperwork


On another note, the gun club I'm a member of gives you a free machine gun rental and 2 mags during your birth month. Mine is June, so I headed down last Saturday to shoot their Mini Uzi:

Got 2 extra mags (25 round for this gun) just for grins...shot at 15 yards, practicing 3 round bursts. Here's the result:

 

[honestabe]

Open carry is legal for anyone in AZ, no permit of any kind required. You have to have a CCW to carry concealed...this means that a CCW holder can carry concealed -or- open. Any business establishment can prohibit open carry on the premise by posting a sign on the door. Currently, carry of any kind is prohibited in any establishment serving alcohol...legislation is pending to change that for CCW holders.

To get a CCW in AZ you have to attend an 8 hour class that is heavy on safety and AZ gun laws. It also includes a couple hours of range time that you have to pass.

Washington is the same way. So long as you are atleast 21, not a felon, and not legally prohibited from owning a pistol you can open carry into most places unless otherwise posted (like my local mall or any place that you can drink alcohol for example). The local O'Reilley's asked me to not carry when I shop there, so I don't shop there anymore (even though I've made quite a few purchases from them lately).

After a Roswell Municipal Court Marshal told a GCO member the member had to conceal his openly carried firearm, GCO brought the matter to the attention of the marshal’s supervisor and then wrote the municipal court judge a letter TODAY explaining the laws (or lack thereof) regarding open carry in Georgia. The details in the letter show that even the supervisor doesn't understand the law.

This incident shows just how poorly the GA law is understood, not only by citizens, but by law enforcement as well, and why open carry is not something you want to do here if you don't have the time to engage in legal battles and drama with the local police.

It's the same problem here in Washington Mike. The cops and most people for that matter have no clue about the gun laws. This is why I carry a pamphlet made up by OpenCarry.org that shows the Washington laws and statutes pertaining to open carrying.

Adam

 

[jdub]

Washington is the same way. So long as you are at least 21, not a felon, and not legally prohibited from owning a pistol you can open carry into most places unless otherwise posted (like my local mall or any place that you can drink alcohol for example). The local O'Reilley's asked me to not carry when I shop there, so I don't shop there anymore (even though I've made quite a few purchases from them lately).

Adam

This is also the same in AZ...didn't mean to imply everyone. We have our criminals here too that have forfeited the right to own a gun.

 

[honestabe]

I know jdub. I was just stating a few basics of the law.

 

[Nick M]

I just ordered my RRA midlength 6.8 SPC from my local FFL dealer.

 

[FullNelson]

Do you have any tacticool plans for it Nick?

 

[Supracentral]

On a different, but still on topic note:

Went to the Cherokee County Courthouse to "renew" my carry permit. I say "renew" as I let it expire too long and now they consider all applications as "new" permit requests - no more streamlined renewals anyway.

Which would suck.

Except my permit showed up less than two weeks after I applied for it.

Seems like Cherokee, GA has its shit together.

 

[suprahero]

I don't know what the topic is since I haven't read anything other than this page, but when I applied for mine, I was told it would take five days for a background check but I got the call two days later saying I was approved for my CCL.

I now own a Keltek .380 and a Taurus .44mm. I don't know what makes one pistol better than another one, I just happend upon these from friends that were selling them.

 

[Captain]

Picked up a used but great condition Smith and Wesson AR15 a couple days ago. Already got a Surefire M500A forend and a Blackhawk single point sling. The flip up sights are pretty useless (no elevation adjustment on rear sight) so I am looking to get a decent RDS.
What do you experts (or anybody with experience) think about an Aimpoint Comp ML2? I shoot around 400m mostly. Thanks guys.

 

[NoKittenMKIII]

Picked up a used but great condition Smith and Wesson AR15 a couple days ago. Already got a Surefire M500A forend and a Blackhawk single point sling. The flip up sights are pretty useless (no elevation adjustment on rear sight) so I am looking to get a decent RDS.
What do you experts (or anybody with experience) think about an Aimpoint Comp ML2? I shoot around 400m mostly. Thanks guys.

Pretty rifle, but the Aimpoint Comps are CQB sights. If you shoot to 400m regularly, look into Trijicon's ACOG. Army standard is 300m and closer, so the CQB stuff is really geared for that. Some ACOGs have iron sights cast into the scope housing, so you have a cqb sight. Also, ACOGs do not require batteries.

 

[CTsupra]

Anyone looking to buy an ar15? I'm considering selling (in a week, or two) my Colt M4 Match Target. If anyone is interested, PM me and we can go from there.

Edit: SOLD!

 

[Gilsdorf]

Picked up a used but great condition Smith and Wesson AR15 a couple days ago. Already got a Surefire M500A forend and a Blackhawk single point sling. The flip up sights are pretty useless (no elevation adjustment on rear sight) so I am looking to get a decent RDS.
What do you experts (or anybody with experience) think about an Aimpoint Comp ML2? I shoot around 400m mostly. Thanks guys.

Here is a good article I found:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=346233

Ditch the single point . . . unless you like having your balls kicked
Matt

 

[boosted1jz]

just picked up a mossberg 500 shotgun.... going to the range tomorrow to test her out

got a colt .45 1911 officers ACP and a 30-30 as well.... and probably looking to get another handgun soon to add to the collection