THANK GOD, The new Linkin Park Doesnt suck!

phoenix6

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someone, please tell me, what the fuck does being on the radio or "all over it" have to do with shit? They are getting paid for something they love doing. If I was making music professionally, and getting paid, I dont care who says what or plays my shit, Im doign what I love and able to live off of it. If I wanted more money and changed everything I knew for it, then I sold out...but not by simply being on the radio, come on.

Deftones are about to be all over the radio again with Saturday Night Wrists, did they sell out? Listen to Hole In The Earth and say they did...
 

Mr.PFloyd

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phoenix6 said:
someone, please tell me, what the fuck does being on the radio or "all over it" have to do with shit? They are getting paid for something they love doing. If I was making music professionally, and getting paid, I dont care who says what or plays my shit, Im doign what I love and able to live off of it. If I wanted more money and changed everything I knew for it, then I sold out...but not by simply being on the radio, come on.

Deftones are about to be all over the radio again with Saturday Night Wrists, did they sell out? Listen to Hole In The Earth and say they did...
i agree. take for example my music teacher. he was on the radio in columbia all the time and he came here and now he does his stuff but isn't publically known. He still plays the same shti at shows and some people liek it some people do not. he doesn't care and he doesn't change his crap to suit what other peopel think.
 

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kongykongfoomonk said:
Yea, so all my music has screaming in it... and this sucks. 'nuff said.

i ususally dont argue at all...but have u actually listened or even read the lyrics of these screamo songs, theyre so deep most normal beings dont even understand them, if you dont like the screaming....bluegrass is always optional guys:icon_bigg
 

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Linkin Park is one of my favorite bands ever... Bought every CD they came out with, Fort Minor rules, NIN, Limp Bizkit, Incubus, Staind, Papa Roach, Sum 41, all that good 90's and early 2000's songs kicked ass. Fuck this new emo shit thats out. I hate it.... I will stick to my 90's and early 00' songs thank you very much...
 

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tea_mkIII said:
i ususally dont argue at all...but have u actually listened or even read the lyrics of these screamo songs, theyre so deep most normal beings dont even understand them, if you dont like the screaming....bluegrass is always optional guys:icon_bigg

indeed, thies are some lyrics from the temptation of saint anthony, a local band here in boise.

"I had a good time with you last night, you should have been there"


black ink seeps through cracks in porcelain teeth, we trickle by, open us with hammers to our mouths and let the love flow out/ your head on my chest, your breath on my neck, and as my fingers slide across your belly, I will break flesh and reach inside, because I know that’s where all the beautiful words you swallow hide/ and I’d love to steal them from you, and hear them scream/ and I’d love to steal them, shove them into my ears, and hear them scream like falling trees/ and I’d love to take them, throw them into the air, and watch them drip brilliant colors I’ve never seen

if i knew how to upload an audio clip i would, but i dont so here's a link to their myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3725754

listen to the songs, i think there are 3 there.
 

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thesandymancan said:
indeed, thies are some lyrics from the temptation of saint anthony, a local band here in boise.

"I had a good time with you last night, you should have been there"


black ink seeps through cracks in porcelain teeth, we trickle by, open us with hammers to our mouths and let the love flow out/ your head on my chest, your breath on my neck, and as my fingers slide across your belly, I will break flesh and reach inside, because I know that’s where all the beautiful words you swallow hide/ and I’d love to steal them from you, and hear them scream/ and I’d love to steal them, shove them into my ears, and hear them scream like falling trees/ and I’d love to take them, throw them into the air, and watch them drip brilliant colors I’ve never seen

if i knew how to upload an audio clip i would, but i dont so here's a link to their myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3725754

listen to the songs, i think there are 3 there.

i like:D
 

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phoenix6 said:
...callin LP sellouts. They fought that statement over and over and over, constantly ridiculed for it, proving time and time again they arnt. They took interviewers into studios and showed step by step how a song was written by them, how many times they have re-written it. Emotional attachments? Chester has had one fucked up childhood, more than enough to push a thousand of these albums with his anger.

On the fort minor CD, every song is an individual statement from Mike, all hitting home to him. Listen to the track Kenji, its about his grandfather who was japanese being put into an interment camp. Its a great song.

Just because alot of idiots like a band doesnt make them sellouts. LP is still doing what they love, regardless of who likes it. Now take Papa Raoch, THEY sold out, they changed their sound since the first CD, and always do now, with each new CD. Just because someone becomes popular doesnt make them a sellout band. CHanging your image and your sound due to what the current mainstream is so that you sell more records, THATS selling out. Linkin Park made it very clear they like to experiment, my friends and I also experiment with out music, we all have different tastes of music that blends somewhere in the middle, one band we all agree on is LP.

We love trance, hip hop, rock, metalcore, and various other styles...
Anybody can attempt to prove people that know what they're talking about wrong. Just because you buy it, doesn't make it true.

Chester had a rough life, huh? Yeah, him and everybody else...

Anybody can show step-by-step how they record an album in the studio. Plenty of people out there have no idea what goes into recording an album. I happened to be lucky enough to join a band that five of my friends are in as they recorded four demos. It was an interesting experience to me, however not one that makes their music any more worth while.

It's obvious that you do have a better understanding of music than most. And it's fine to have differing tastes in music. Hell, I listen to a lot of stuff now that I wouldn't have given any thought to five years ago. My favorite band is Pantera and I am also on a big down-tempo blues kick right now, so nobody can call my musical taste narrow-minded by any stretch. I actually liked LP when there were newer. I just happened to be in high school at the time and really didn't understand much about music, though. Needless to say, I realized somewhat quickly that it was all crap.

CryoSlash said:
Maybe, but so are Guns N Roses, Metallica, Sepultura, Pantera and heck even Ozzy.

i suppose you listen to some kids who cut their arms?:runaway:
"Do me a favor..." and listen to Pantera's "Official Live 101 Proof" album and then get back to me on Pantera.

Metallica went commercial, or in other words, to shit, with their '91 release, "The Black Album."

Sepultura went commercial once Max Cavalera left the band.

Guns n Roses isn't a commercial band in my mind.

And Ozzy, well, I don't care for his solo project all that much. Randy Rhoads (RIP) and Zakk Wylde are some killer guitar players, though. Black Sabbath is where it's at when it comes to Ozzy's work.

Let me clear something up really quick for everyone. Being on the radio does not make a band commercial. Making "catchy hit songs" (might as well be equivalent to a swear word in the music world) that'll never be worth a thing other than to be looped on the radio is what makes a band commercial.

The key to doing that is simple: Play music that has a familiar sound to everybody with lyrics that are easily commercially acceptable that anybody can relate to. Don't dare go to any extremes with anything. No blast beats, primarily simple strumming-based riffs, a voice that is "easy" to listen to, a basic song structure that highlights the easy-to-memorize chorus and a name that is fun for the whole family.

Now for ten bands that I listen to that you'll never hear on the radio (and thank the Lord!): Goatwhore, Bongzilla, Eyehategod, Acid Bath, Death, Pentagram, Venom, Warhorse, Goatsnake and Necrophagia. Notice one thing that they all have in common? A name that's not acceptable for a 15-year-old kid to let their parents know that they're into. I think that backs up one of my points just fine.

Record companies and radio broadcasters aren't stupid. They know that commercially acceptable is good for business.
 

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As for trance and techno and all that garbage with a neat little electronically-generated beat... Music isn't music without instruments.

I can appreciate good musical talent even if I don't like the music. Dave Matthews' Band is an example I've used many times - great talent, it's just not for me. So don't any of you pull the "you're biased" card with me. I'll tell you right now I'm biased - biased toward musical talent.

"Kthxbye!"
 

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trance is amazing to listen to. gets you hyped, but can also let you chill out and relax. its some people that use club drugs and listen to trance/techno that gives it a bad name.

all music is a personal choice. you choose to listen to it, and if you like it continue to listen to it. the important thing is to keep an open mind and not bash something when you havnt heard it out.

this being said i love the old LP, and continually listen to hybrid theory as i have not found one bad song on that album. they are great and full of energy, which is why i listen to them when i freestyle ski/snowboard/inline.
 

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mu‧sic  /ˈmyuzɪk/
–noun
1. an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color.

Trance, is music. I dont like it as much, its preferance, but its music. I listen to ALOT as well, anyone thinking LP being my fav band hinders my ability is sadly mistaken. I too think Pantera is awesome, and agree metallica went to shit after Black Album.

What makes this crap sellout your half right, it is some catchy continuous BS played over and over, AKA pop, AKA Justins new single, I like his voice, amazing singer, but that song... come on.

LP Was outplayed by the radios, continuously, but again, not their fault. The things that attract me most to a band are the people in it. If I hear a great song, and then see the band on an interview and think they are morons with instruments, I wont like the band. LP Is my fav bc they remind me so much of me and my friends. Their DVD, was a replica of how our days played out for a long time, around eachother. Its not just the music for me. LP like I said, has fun with music, radio may play something that was amazing by them, but it wont make it sellout. Here in town a station has whats called MANDATORY METALLICA, at 11pm every night. They play 3 or more songs by them in a row. That to me, is outplayed, and its mostly older shit, but it doesnt make them sellout. Linkin Park may appear on TV somewhat more than others, and o n the radio, but it doesnt make them less bc their name is acceptable by 15 year olds along with their music. Their music is aggressive with an actual message. They stated they want their music to be taken in anyway that helps the individual listening.

I dont mean to insult anyone but the statement that band ISNT a sellout bc their name is "hardcore shit" and they will never get played on the radio is bullshit. So what, who cares? Ill go name my band raging pussy whore and get a contract and have really catchy shit and sellout, but itll never get played on the radio cuz of the name. You cant use that as proof that they arnt or wont sellout.

LPs lyrics are socially acceptable bc they dont scream hatred and cuss their asses off, go listen to Fort Minor, I can count fuck ALOT on that CD. Still played on the radio.

LP wanted their fanbase to be ANYONE who likes what they do, my 42 yo mom rocked her ass off at the LP concert when we all went, I saw people from 13 to 50 there, all having a blast. If that means they sold out bc all those people have something that great in common, then sell my ass out.

Everyones idea of a sellout is a band thats accepted by a group of 15 yo girls. Then tell me this, when you go to one of your harder concerts, isnt 99% of the crowd the same fuckin sterotype of people? How is that any differnt? Didnt that band then sellout to that crowd? I went to a 36 Crazyfists concert 2 months ago, saw nothing but 18 - 25 yos dressed in black and makeup and pins and bullshit, my friend and I were the only ones I saw dressed "normal",

Most of you have NEVER heard of 36 Crazyfists, bc of their style of music, radio wont touch it. They havent sold out but their fanbase is 99% one style almost (99% obviously exagerating a little)
Point is, any band could be a sellout if everyones idea was that one social group listened to them while the rest didnt. The people who listen to the radio or are on it, are a social group, doesnt include everyone. Most shit on pop stations is sellout music.

Anyways, in closing, really, sellout or not if I like what the fuck I hear, I like it bottom line. I LOVE LP, hell I LOVE enigma, they are awesome as well. I can listen to almost any style of music and find something I like. I can listen to Justin Timberlake, I bought the first CD, sellout or not, it had some good shit. To say a band is a sellout is one thing, but you can only state it againt them if you really NEVER HAVE EVER liked something that was considered sellout. I stand behind LP not being sellouts, but I wont say just bc a nother band maybe one, I dont like them or they are complete scum. Dislike the music, dont disrespect it, someone likes it and someone worked hard to make it.


PS: Sp7M Im not insulting you at all, I think your a cool guy like anyone else on here, no disrespect meant to you or anyone else against my opinion. Im simply stating just that, my opinion. Hope no one takes this sorely.
 
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If I was in a band I'd sell out in a minute, I don't care if incredibly ugly girls (Craig/SP7M) called me a sellout :dunno: I'd have tons of money, and wouldn't care.
 

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Wills7MGTE said:
Its ok but not like thier older stuff, sounding a lil too much like mudvayne and all the rest, they kinda lost thier distinctive sound, lets hope the other tracks are better.

Im not too sure they lost it, just updated, stuff is getting harder now in this genre, they are trying it out, Mike even stated it will most likely not make it to the album.

I think its a little harder but still has the same LP elements.

Just cant wait till Im cruisin in my supra back on the road with this song... I might blow another engine...