One way around it might be to run the NA MAF in front of the SC as it measures "flow" and not density but that will limit the power to whatever the MAF will flow, but.... outside the box thinking here, you could double the stock injector size and run a second AFM to half the restriction and that "should" work... (I need to ponder this a bit)
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IJ.;1653387 said:
lol alright old man do your pondering i await to see what your wisdom comes up with!
you will need a boost refencing fuel pressure regulator at the least,
side story: a friend of mine is running a eaton m90 (the ford thunderbird sc) on a 3.1 cavalier with just the brfpr and it seems to work quite well. no idea how long it will last without proper engine managment, but its been going for a year with no noticable issues.
back to your post. you will also have to figure out throttle cable linkange and how your running your intake piping. and the eatons are self oiled and dont need any oil lines, atleat the m90 is, not 100% sure on his, but i think i see i fill plug on the front housing
side story: a friend of mine is running a eaton m90 (the ford thunderbird sc) on a 3.1 cavalier with just the brfpr and it seems to work quite well. no idea how long it will last without proper engine managment, but its been going for a year with no noticable issues.
back to your post. you will also have to figure out throttle cable linkange and how your running your intake piping. and the eatons are self oiled and dont need any oil lines, atleat the m90 is, not 100% sure on his, but i think i see i fill plug on the front housing
bioskyline;1653393 said:
okay ya i see that the throttle body bolts up to the back end of the sc so i would have to find a way to deal with the throttle cable and the MAF........ btw whats the difference between a MAF and a AFM?
rodama5anthony;1653395 said:
Same same , the NA one is restrictive and reads totally differently to the GTE one so aren't interchangable.
MAF systems are very accurate as they actually measure ALL of the air entering the engine instead of making a guess like a MAP based system but the Meters tend to be fragile a bit exe and it's hard to "tune" a different Meter to the stock electronics and that's why I suggested the 2x and double stock injector size as an alternative that should work and not break the bank.
As Bio pointed out a Boost ref Pressure Reg is a must along with a decent fuel pump.
IJ.;1653401 said:
hmmm interesting. how would i run two MAFs? on turbos u can run one on the turbo and one on the intake but how would that work with the SC?
That's what I'm thinking, trying to do this with minimal expensive extra electronics/hardware.bioskyline;1653411 said:
GE Maf's are a dime a dozen and as long as he's not shooting for high boost he should get away with a simple system.
I can think of 15 different/better ways to do this but they're all expensive...
(I had 25K AUD just in management in mine the last time out so "cheap" is something I haven't done before but the above is a suggestion only)
bioskyline;1653411 said:
hmmm that could work especially since that MAF takes up way less space then the stock one. my only question is if it will work with the supercharger
rodama5anthony;1653416 said:
yes, it works well with the turbo, so id imangine it would work with the sc
and ij, someone on here is trying that with the turbo. 2 afms on a ypipe and 880 injectors, sneak that extra air into the engine so the tccs still thinks its stock. havnt heard an update on it though
had trouble picturing the setup so i drew this really quick. is this close to what your suggesting?Yep that'll do it, I'd probably not Y the filter side though and just run a pair.
If you can afford a MaftPro that simplifies things a lot as then you just run a single GM MAF.
If you can afford a MaftPro that simplifies things a lot as then you just run a single GM MAF.
would have made it look better but forgot i lost photoshop when i wiped my comp so had to work with crappy ass microsoft paint
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alright thanks. hmmmm is the dud MAF really necessary with a set up like that?
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would this one do the trick? http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=050SUPRA3MAFT
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IJ.;1653423 said:
alright thanks. hmmmm is the dud MAF really necessary with a set up like that?
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would this one do the trick? http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=050SUPRA3MAFT
alright thanks IJ i guess i better start saving up lol
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with the MAFT PRO will i have to worry about the ECU still?
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with the MAFT PRO will i have to worry about the ECU still?
Its a piggy back which "tricks" the stock ecu so your basically still dealing with the stock ecu unless you go standalone.
