supercharged idea, help me with this
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still looks like a good idea..... on paper at least.
btw MKIII noob..... initial d sig eh (GT-R guy)?
btw MKIII noob..... initial d sig eh (GT-R guy)?
lol yessir...DORYAA! i say that when i take a shit...helps me concentrate. they call me god foot...why? well because, ive got a foot of a god. you wanna see?
jk.
jk.
Wills7MGTE said:This could be really awesome, the supra community is one step closer to leaf springs and stag beer guzzling fan boys and girls. Lets just put a nice big turbo on and call it a day. I love the creativity you guys show on here daily but some of these ideas just OMG ya know, there was never a supercharged supra anywhere unless some redneck got hold on one and bolted on a blower. I could be wrong but I am betting the engineers at toyota and all the other companies might know a bit more and had good reason to run a turbo and not its half witted lil brother the supercharger so I say lets explore the snail route a bit more.
will, who gives a shit if rednecks use superchargers too. like you said, there's never been a supercharged supra thats been logged, to date; so why not aim for a goal that hasn't been achieved yet. it doesn't matter if it works better than a turbo. at this point in r&d, all we have to do is get one to work on the supra and that's all id be asking for. after that comes the more advanced work on it.
like ij said, not all superchargers suck, especially if set up right. and hell, theres that little issue of no lag. who cares if it robs 5 or 10 horsepower, you've still got more than you used to.
Clip: A 6-71 at 5000 rpm takes 100hp to turn it
As you said though they give much more hp than they take!
(but having said that a Turbo isn't free hp as much as people would try and make you believe it)
As you said though they give much more hp than they take!
(but having said that a Turbo isn't free hp as much as people would try and make you believe it)
IJ. said:Clip: A 6-71 at 5000 rpm takes 100hp to turn it
As you said though they give much more hp than they take!
(but having said that a Turbo isn't free hp as much as people would try and make you believe it)
well i was off...a tad. i mustve been talking about the 5-10 hp loss while parked in the garage.
but yeah, id gladly put any kind of forced induction on my NA. i think id see a difference:naughty:
i was just thinking the same thing today. looked on ebay for a paxton(guy at work sudjested it ide trust him) because of the fact that it isnt that expensive unit, and doesnt need to be mounted on the intake manifold. what i saw was a paxton sn89. it seems small enough for the area where the AC compressor is. i was thinking of putting a k&n neer the location piped to the s/c, then the charged air would be hard piped into a FMIC(the normal kind with one inlet/outlet on each side) then it would run from the IC to the AFM, if needed a lex AFM w/ 550s. all i gotta figure out is where to put the filter, how to mount the s/c and how to pipe it efficiently.
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Paxton is still a centrifugal SC so you will get some perceived Lag while it "spools" as it's NOT a positive displacement unit like a Roots style blower.
You get the worst of both worlds lag and inefficient on the top end so it makes little sense installing one on a 7M!
You get the worst of both worlds lag and inefficient on the top end so it makes little sense installing one on a 7M!
but im not looking to make crazy power, just enough for some "spirited" driving, it is a n/a and ide still be the 1st to put a s/c on a supra:evil2:
edit. it will also help to keep my stock drivetrain intact.
edit. it will also help to keep my stock drivetrain intact.
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anyone know where i can find a diagram of the engine bay from the side and the front, im looking for a cutaway and i suck with cads.
damn, just took an up close look at the area i was thinking about, and there is no room to route the piping :cry: oh well, was worth a shot
Not to rain on your parade but there is no way known unless you have a fully equipped machine shop and the skills to do most of the work yourself is this ever going to be a cost effective install.
^ Supras aren't reallt cost effective in themselves. :icon_bigg
Interesting stuff in this thread, to say the least.
Interesting stuff in this thread, to say the least.
You'd be lucky to make 400rwhp doing this on a budget with a blower so a NA/T would be a damn site more cost effective
(not to mention there would be minimal fabrication work)
(not to mention there would be minimal fabrication work)
the whole reason that i was contemplating the supercharger idea was the fact that noone has it, i wanted to be unique. i dont have a shitload od $$ to toss at it. and i didnt want to tap the block for a 1/2 NA-T, even though i have most of the parts intsalled,(oil pan, oil pump, tranny) and i have a turbo back exhaust, stock DP w/ both and a 2.5 in exhaust.
**edit**wrong place to post it
**edit**wrong place to post it
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