Stinger thread....

jmcboost

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suprahero;1132889 said:
Has anyone used the Stinger to control boost and if so, would you mind explaining to me how to set it up? I've read it but I can't find out how to do it. Thanks.

Yeah, I want to know the same....... Anybody?
 

Clint

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I am interested in finding out if high and low impedance makes a difference with the stand alone or if you half to wire in the 7m resister or not for low impedance injectors, Also I am interested in learning more about the boost controller and anti lag setup :)
 

hottscennessey

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Yes, I am. Just a forewarning, on my car meth is injected into the motor at above 16 PSI, the map is tuned assuming methanol will be entering the motor above 16 PSI, meaning no failsafes..

If you want failsafes, you'll have to figure something else out.. or email EMS Stinger asking for more advanced auxilary controls in their software.
 

suprahero

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I can deal with no failsafes. I was actually wanting mine to come on at about 14 psi, and I was going to set my boost controller to 18-19 psi with 93 octane and 50/50 meth. I will check my reservoir before I drive it to make sure I'm not going to run out.

Scott, did you only use one injector and is it between the bov and the tb?
 

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I have tried both with and without the resistor on low impedance injectors, it seemed to have a smoother idle with the resistor wired in and the injector output set to "10-14 ohms". It can drive low impedance injectors directly though, input whatever the injector resistance is as your injector ohm setting.
 

Clint

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bigaaron;1168610 said:
I have tried both with and without the resistor on low impedance injectors, it seemed to have a smoother idle with the resistor wired in and the injector output set to "10-14 ohms". It can drive low impedance injectors directly though, input whatever the injector resistance is as your injector ohm setting.

Thanks Aaron for that answer, my other question would be then has anybody setup anti lag yet and have it working properly?
 

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Pharnhyte;1161426 said:
Are you still running on stock twins, and stock injectors? If so, can I please get your map? I am sick of my car taking so long to start on cold mornings.


Thanks

single w/ 440cc's. You can download my map on the first page. Cold starts are a little temperamental below 50 degrees, but not too bad.
 

rakkasan

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Hey Aaron, did you have to order the 2.5k resistor? Every place that sells electrical supplies in the area stock 2.2k's, but the 2.5k's are considered special order. Just curious.....
 

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2 questions Rakkasan

1. Say I used someone else's laptop to dyno tune my car, is there a way to pull that tune from my Stinger using the software as I have a laptop now.

2. If not how would your tune work for me I have a single T60 with 540CC injectors.
 

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Mike, my tune might be close for your car. My tune was for the 35r which is about 61mm, and I have 624cc injectors. You can always decrease the fuel by a percentage like maybe 15% and see how that goes. I think that maybe Mark's tune will be closer though.

Call me if I can help you in any way.
 

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macjac69;1170360 said:
2 questions Rakkasan

1. Say I used someone else's laptop to dyno tune my car, is there a way to pull that tune from my Stinger using the software as I have a laptop now.

2. If not how would your tune work for me I have a single T60 with 540CC injectors.


You can pull the tune by reading from the ECU, then saving the file. Then you have a save of the current tune.
 

gravesdu_99

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Jay just wondering if you wouldn't mind posting your tune like mark did. Your set up sounds close to mine. I have a gt4082 with 640cc injectors.

Also If you don't mind I was wondering how much it cost you to rent aaron for a weekend of tuning. I know that I live a lot more north than you do, but just looking for a ball park figure. I would like to take it to a tuner, but I don't think that they would know what to do, and I know that aaron has done these many times. If not I will probably send the car out to him.
 

suprahero

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Graves, I will post up my tune but I can't right now. I will charge up my laptop and get it on here asap.

As far as renting Aaron.............I'm not so sure he's for hire right now. I caught him at a great time a couple of years ago when he was wanting to do some study on the inbreeding of rednecks and what better place to start than right here in Alabama.
He will however be glad to tune your car if it was shipped out to him. You may want to send him a pm and ask him though. Good luck.
 

turbo87targa

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hottscennessey;1169041 said:
Yea, I have it working. It just doesn't 2 step, it's purely ignition retard for building boost.
**off topic**

whats the difference in anti lag and 2 step? doesnt 2 stepping kill turbos?

is anti lag like building boost without a load on the engine, and 2 step is the small rev limiter for a nicer launch?
 

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AntiLag is retading the Timing and injecting fuel along with additional air so the fuel ignites between the head and the Turbo, this turns the Turbo into a Gas Turbine engine on it's own and can make boost instantly.

AL can be configured so it's active whenever you need instant boost.

It's VERY hard on all of the hot side components.

2 Step is a second RPM limit at a level where the engine can build boost as while it's on the limiter you have some unburnt fuel in the exhaust that ignites and is a poor cousin to true antilag.

It's usually used in conjunction with launch control for out of the hole acceleration.