Stinger thread....

quake

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IJ.;1141071 said:
Quake: Doesn't it have "Cranking Compensation"?

<Edit> It does it's "Cold Crank" and is set as a %

Page 80 of the manual.

has it in the manual but i have yet to see it. I think they screwed up, or the 8860 has it. The way i outlined works well though. By the way stay out of this thread, it's only for us poor people:biglaugh:
 

quake

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IJ.;1141677 said:
8860 has a better version of it with 2 axis adjustment ;)
(page 83)

So you're saying it's in the manual but not in the software?

i have yet 2 c it, could be me though
 

Pharnhyte

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quake;1141063 said:
Thought i covered this but you need lots of fuel during cranking. when the car is cold as in been sitting for 4hrs or more, plug in the laptop and press "read from ecu" when the car is ready press and hold the space bar, then start cranking. All the cells your car uses for cranking should be highlighted. Now go in and add more fuel to these cells. Much much more start with +5. Then crank again if the car starts then drive it.

After driving let it cool again full cold and repeat. You should now see a higher than most of your map peak for cranking fuel on the 3d display add as needed. When done the car should start by the second try or right on the first try. After starting most cars will want more fuel when the motor is cold. You know this cause the car will sputter when driving in vac on a cold motor. If so then go under fuel temp compensation and add more fuel for the colder water temps progressively adding less at the water temp rises and ending up at 0 by the time the car warms up.

Thank you very much, I will do this.
 

rakkasan

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bigaaron;1052474 said:
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Hey Aaron,

What's the purpose of the resistor?
 

hottscennessey

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I just sent the Stinger guys a message regaurding my problem.

I run a narrowband 02 sensor to give me a little better fuel economy during cruising.. the only problem is whenever the car idles for more than 20 seconds, the narrowband function over-corrects my idle and causes the engine to hunt.

I've been trying to tune this out for a year with no avail. I've touched everything. As soon as I turn the narrowband mode off, the hunting stops.

The narrowband feature is great, but there is no operational "window" for it. You can only select -20KPA and down (more vac). You can't select.. say.. -20KPA to -60KPA. That would be too easy...

Just keep this in mind if any of you are going to go through the trouble of installing a narrowband 02.

I'll update if they get back to me/update the software.. which they havn't done yet for any of my requests :3d_frown:.
 

hottscennessey

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There's an idea! I was thinking about how I could wire up a switch to control it, I guess I could just kill the power to the NB02 with a manual switch/aux out. Thanks!

For now I lowered the "allowable change &#37;" for the stinger's control over the NB02 and t helped out quite a little bit at idle, but I know my fuel economy will suffer.
 

IJ.

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There's always a workaround if you think about it hard enough ;)

As I said it's ugly but will do the trick.

I'd just switch the signal on/off as required using a solid state relay.

0>2% Tps = 0
3>20% Tps = 100
21>100% Tps = 0
 

hottscennessey

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Good call, as I recall you chance pre-maturely killing an O2 sensor by exposing it to heat without power going to it.

Speaking of finding walkarounds, the idle control was so finiky for the stinger I finally hardwired a switch for it. It's crude but it works, and also saves one of your auxilary outputs for something more important. Hopefully someone will find that helpful for their coldstarts.
 

rakkasan

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IJ.;1141709 said:
Just installed and had a play with the SW you're correct it's AWOL :(

It was on an earlier version of the software, but they removed it during an update. I have emailed EMS and asked them to put it back in. No word yet, but I will post what I recieve from them.

It was a handy tool, I don't know why they dropped it.....
 

rakkasan

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IJ.;1142579 said:
That's a pullup/down Mark.

I thought going on my brief play with the Stinger SW yesterday it had onboard resistors that you can switch?

I thought so too, I'll have to dig around to find the correct answer.