satx88supra;1898366 said:
So how was the cruise guys?
The cruise measured up to the hype once again. It was about 9 of us going from SA to Austin to start. There was many more cars this time around than the last time i made it out. Sadly though there were alot less Supras. :cry: Nick and I were the only MK3s there and I only saw 2 MK4s. There was a small incident with the cops that amounted to nothing just a bit of a waste of time. Here's how one of the guys involved explained what happenned:
Alright, here's the story of Saturday's "Lago Vista 911."
We were in the blueish Mazdaspeed3. My brother (31) was driving. I (33) was in the passenger seat. My son (4) was in the car seat in the back. We were in one of the more civil pods released from the signal light at 1431 (where we lined up.) We were with the Ferrari, the two orange SRT Challengers and a few others. The group we were in is important because of whatever was reported to the police.
For some reason, the Ferrari slowed down around Jonestown. Everyone else drove off. We thought maybe he was holding back for the next group released from the light. We knew the matte black Vipers were back there somewhere and we wanted to roll with them. We decided we'd hold back, too. When we got to Lago Vista, the kid had to pee so we stopped for water and a pit stop at Cefco. We spent a while at the convenience store (kids take a long time to pick snacks for the "long leg" of the trip.) We saw a group go by but we'd paid enough attention to the lineup to know our intended spot was still coming.
We pulled out, crossed the signal light alone and pulled off at Bar K Ranch Road, just up the hill from the stoplight. We did this so we could sit and watch the light for our group. When they showed up, we'd have plenty of time to get back on the road and fall in. Logical, right?
About 3 minutes after parking, two cop cars FLY off the line at the signal light. One of them locks up the brakes, skids into the ditch and throws dirt everywhere. Total Dukes of Hazzard style! My brother said "they're coming for us." I said "for WHAT?" He said, "I don't know but here they come."
Two cop cars, two cops. We'll call one officer Oldtoots and one officer Goodenquiet. Office Oldtoots screamed at my brother (driver) show me your hands!! I've been pulled over for speeding as we all have. I've NEVER heard one start out this way. We were in for a treat.
I should probably pause here to say a few very critical things:
-we were doing NOTHING wrong
-we had a kid with us
-no drinking, no drugs, clean car, clean guys
-we were NOT speeding
-we were NOT even with the group at this point
So, officer Oldtoots asks for ID from my brother. Already appalled at what was playing out before us, I leaned up and asked just what in the world we did. Before I could get through the sentence, I was COMMANDED to be quiet. I was told in front of my kid to SHUT THE HELL UP and that he WASN'T TALKING TO ME!! I sat back in my seat and told my kid to relax. We'll work this out.
My brother was then commanded to leave the vehicle. The entire time he was questioned for drugs, alcohol, what we were doing, etc. I heard them yelling behind the car for a while. Eventually, he (officer) came to my door, opened it and moved me to the back of the car. He held me to the passenger taillight repeating military barks like "DON'T MOVE", etc. I was speechless. We couldn't have been LESS a threat but we were being treated like well-known crime ring leaders.
Are you this man's brother.
Yes.
Are you part of "this group" of cars?
Sorta.
How did you find out about this group?
Facebook.
Are you responsible for spotting cops?
No, WHAT?!We were getting drinks.. he then yells THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION!! From that point on, anytime I so much as peeped about any more than the specific question he asked, I was yelled back against the car. I was not threatening. I wasn't yelling back. My brain kept saying "is this really HAPPENING?!"
Safety note at this point: we're on a pretty good slope. My son is belted into a car seat. The only thing stopping him from rolling down that hill and into the front page of a horrible newspaper story is the emergency brake on the Mazda. Looking back I cringe at the thought of how mad I would have been if that car brake failed and rolled while those *#$(*# were holding us outside of it.
I don't mind cussing, but these cops were way overdoing it. They went on to explain how 911 was called and some Subarus were reported for street racing. A blue one was called out in particular for spotting. They kept asking us how this must look if we're up on this hill like a "lookout." He wouldn't let me talk long enough to point out:
-This isn't a Subaru
-We were with a Ferrari and two FREAKING ORANGE challengers. Don't you think anyone with access to 911 would have referred to THOSE cars in the call?
Again, we couldn't have been ANY more innocent!!
Side note, if you were part of whoever got called in, you're welcome. We held them off for you : )
THEN, stage IV in the insanity: we had the k9 unit called to search the CAR!! Are you ... REALLY???!
At this point, my brother started chiming in 5th amendment stuff. He knew what to say. He gave them no permission to search the car. He said this is absurd and that it was getting out of hand.
Another side note: I've never smoked a thing in my life. I can't speak for my brother, but I can say with 99.9% assurance that there had never been a drug in that car. If it was, it was on someone else and we didn't know about it. We weren't worried about the dogs searching it. We were getting outwardly angry at this point. I think he was trying to see if we'd crack. Or were on crack.
It was then that officer Oldtoots went back to his cruiser for a second. Now we were alone with (backup) officer Goodenquiet. I did ask as plainly as possible, "you see what is going on here, right? You see that we're NOT doing ANYTHING you are accusing us of. I have a receipt from the convenience store 20 minutes ago. I have 200 Facebook photos proving we were exactly where I'm trying to say we've been." He just kinda shrugged and stood there holding his belt. Afterwards, we decided he was with us on the story the whole time but he knew the boss had to be on this power trip and it was in his best interest to be quiet and watch.
Officer Oldtoots came back and explained (still angry as ever) how he gets lied to all the time. He explained that we were putting the child in harm's way and that we should turn around and go home. He asked us what was in the half-empty can of tea in the cupholder. He was STILL scratching for something to pin us down on. It was INSANE. Dispatch called back some sort of discontinue on the K9 unit. They were either busy or nonexistent.
My brother was smart enough to ask if we were free to go. The officer didn't say yes but didn't say no - mostly mumbling. He asked again, more forcefully, ARE WE FREE TO GO? The cop said YES, almost pouting.
There was no apology. There was no "y'all have a good day." Nothing. We just turned around quietly and got back in the car. I checked on my son as we passed the window. He asked why cops yell that much. I tried to explain that they were just doing their job. Of course, we made fun of them the whole way home so I'm sure I bombed that teaching opportunity!
I wish I had some lesson to teach from all of this. All I can say is: be careful, be clean and take lots of pictures (not that they'll let you show them, because that would instantly deflate their entire argument.) You never know when you'll need them for proof.
I believe in the value of law enforcement and I stand behind everything they do but sometimes, boys, just relax. You pulled over a glorified family car full of... FAMILY! Back off. Don't swear around the kids. Don't yell if you have NO credible evidence. No witnesses. No proof. We would have complied civilly in EVERY way. My brother drove here from Dallas to be a part of this cruise. We made it 20 miles, spent 30 minutes getting treated like boot camp maggots then drove back to Austin.
Rest assured, we'll be with you in March or whenever this goes down again.This time we plan to make it all the way to the end!