Really Stupid Coolant Issue.:cry:

[grimreaper]

I always get thrown back by today's youthful form of communication. Just giving the OP the benefit of the doubt that he was doing what we used to accomplish with a "Yeehaw!"



rofl... today's communications kill me.

to be fair, the youth have learned what they now from their upbringing.. ie parents = older generation. it started some where...

They choose to continue the path they take on their own. So i blame both, kid and parent. The parent for not beating them hard enough (kidding) and the kid for not desiring forward progress as they grew older. Kind of like an engine build. A good base (strong rods, pistons, machine work) allows reliable output and power additions down the road.

I've got a little one and its become surprisingly noticeable between parents that spend the time with their kids and those that dont. All shows up in the child's behavior.

 

[Bogwon]

He shouldn't and neither should you. It should be warmed (by driving gently) before beating on it however.

I have always been told that if you have any sort of mods to your car (especially a turbo'd car), you should let it warm up before driving it at all. One of the people who told me this was an Audi certified tech who has built numerous performance vehicles including parts of my supra.

 

[Rollus]

I have always been told that if you have any sort of mods to your car (especially a turbo'd car), you should let it warm up before driving it at all. One of the people who told me this was an Audi certified tech who has built numerous performance vehicles including parts of my supra.

Then if engine is warmed up can we threw power on cold gearbox, drive train, and brakes?
Did he built the cooling system of your supra?

 

[Bogwon]

Then if engine is warmed up can we threw power on cold gearbox, drive train, and brakes?
Did he built the cooling system of your supra?

Point taken sir. Well played.

 

[Rollus]

It was a real question, not to argue, because about warming up I have always got both advice. If it was to argue, I wouldn't take time to write then.

At work, I'm building ECS for V12 to V18 4000 to 10000HP (no typo) emergency diesel generators, and engine, generator, and electrical auxiliaries (pumps, etc..) are heated together by heating resistors, but only engine oil and water systems are monitored, maybe an improvement can be done, by either monitoring all the system for safety, or not preheat generator and auxiliaries for energy savings.

 

[Bogwon]

The answer to your question is "no" as the guy he was building the car for (who I bought the car from) losing his job and ended up selling his project to me. They put in ARPs, MHG, intake and exhaust but the rest of the vehicle was largely untouched.

 

[Nick M]

I have always been told that if you have any sort of mods to your car (especially a turbo'd car), you should let it warm up before driving it at all.

All that will do is dilute your oil and pollute the air. Who said that anyway? Start the car. Wait 10 seconds, then drive normal. Avoid jack rabbit starts until the car is at operating temperature. You will never guess where that answer comes from Besides the laws of physics....

 

[Bogwon]

All that will do is dilute your oil and pollute the air. Who said that anyway? Start the car. Wait 10 seconds, then drive normal. Avoid jack rabbit starts until the car is at operating temperature. You will never guess where that answer comes from Besides the laws of physics....

There must be some merit in letting the car warm up before driving it, at least a few people have heard of doing just that. I'm not saying once the engine is warm to go tearing off out of the drive way mind you. I normally let the stock temp gauge move up to the first line and then drive normally until it's a operating temps then I might do a pull or two but by the time I do my first pull, the car has been up to temp for a few miles.

I don't know that I'll change my habits but I'm not completely closed minded on the subject either.

 

[IJ.]

Another vote for drive the car as soon as it will pull it's own weight...

We're NOT talking about 1970's Carb engines here... :nono:

 

[Drake69]

When I start mine up I only give it 1 minute to warm up, then I drive "casual" until I feel she is ready. Then on open multi-lane highways I open her up and let her stretch her legs out. You can pretty much tell when your turbo'ed car WANTS to play hard, like quick acceleration, holding her back at stoplights (you're sitting there, foot on the brake, and you feel her edging forward like she wants to leap.), etc...

Those are the moments when I love this car. :love:

 

[Zrain25]

^ yup. And when your at the perfect rpm when the turbo is about to light up makes me smile

 

[jetjock]

I have always been told that if you have any sort of mods to your car (especially a turbo'd car), you should let it warm up before driving it at all. One of the people who told me this was an Audi certified tech who has built numerous performance vehicles including parts of my supra.

He's wrong. Proves yet again "professional" mechanics often have NFI what they're talking about or worse, possess poor critical thinking skills and little common sense. Warming while parked is bad for the reasons already mentioned. It does nothing to prepare the rest of the drive train and needlessly prolongs the engine in warm up enrichment. It also reduces fuel economy to zero, completely thwarting the vehicle's value as a transportation tool. You might as well sit in it making engine sounds. Then again some here probably do...

 

[Drake69]

 

[Grandavi]

ROFL @ Mr. Diesel above...

I have done that in the garage with the kids watching to give them a chuckle when they come out to see why I am staring at my car... it gives them something to make fun of me about later.

Warming up cars happens so much quicker when driving.. I am surprised that there are still those with the misconception that you need to wait longer than 18 seconds (that's the approximate time it takes to fully circulate the system if I remember right from the 80's...)

 

[Zrain25]

I let mine warm up for 1 min then let going. All my cars I let warm up for 30 seconds to a min.

The diesel I let warm up for a couple mins. In the winter like 10 min

 

[BryanDyer]

 

[Bogwon]

He's wrong. Proves yet again "professional" mechanics often have NFI what they're talking about or worse, possess poor critical thinking skills and little common sense. Warming while parked is bad for the reasons already mentioned. It does nothing to prepare the rest of the drive train and needlessly prolongs the engine in warm up enrichment. It also reduces fuel economy to zero, completely thwarting the vehicle's value as a transportation tool. You might as well sit in it making engine sounds. Then again some here probably do...

I've done a few google searches and seems everything that I can find on the subject supports what you guys are telling me here... which makes me wonder what other advice the guy has given me that might be flawed.

 

[Grandavi]

Well mechanics are human. Some good some bad. I find specifically with 7m mk3's, although the engines are fairly straight forward, not many actually understand the layout. They shortcut, which can work well on a typical consumer model, but our cars seem to have little tolerance for silly people.

Take everything you hear and hunt until it sounds right. Some misconceptions become fact via word of mouth.

 

[jetjock]

^ Wise words. The truth is out there.

Bad info is usually a case of things being passed down from an earlier generation or things that should've changed due to advancements in technology. Take motor oil for example. I long ago gave up trying to educate people about it. Old habits, wives tales, and just plain ignorance die hard. Fortunately most of it is harmless.

 

[IndigoMKII]

^This.

The oil now is MUCH better than the oil from 10 years ago even. I've heard from IJ that it's advancing almost to the point where a turbo timer is useless unless you JUST got done beating on the car.