Proof of concept (electric drag cars)

Joel W.

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Here is yet another one.. Pretty cool man...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1032148.stm
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How it works

The Islay wave power generator was designed and built by Wavegen and researchers from Queen's University in Belfast and has financial backing from the European Union.

Known as Limpet 500 (Land Installed Marine Powered Energy Transformer), it will feed 500 kilowatts of electricity into the island's grid.

Limpet was born out of a 10-year research project on the island where the team had built a demonstration plant capable of generating 75 Kilowatts of electricity.

The power generator consists of two basic elements:
A wave energy collector.
A generator to turn this into electricity.



The energy collector comprises a sloping reinforced shell built into the rock face on the shoreline with an inlet big enough to allow seawater to freely enter and leave a central chamber.

As waves enter the shell chamber, the level of water rises, compressing the air in the top of the chamber.

This air is then forced through a "blowhole" and into the "Wells Turbine", designed by Professor Alan Wells of Queen's University.

The turbine has been designed to continue turning the same way irrespective of the direction of the airflow.

As the water inside the chamber recedes as the waves outside draw back, the air is sucked back under pressure into the chamber, keeping the turbine moving.

This constant stream of air in both directions, created by the oscillating water column, produces enough movement in the turbine to drive a generator which converts the energy into electricity.
 

Adjuster

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Nice to see there are advances in technology eh?

Reality is however, we are not going to replace all our energy needs with wave power, but I could see many of the coastal needs being met. (The capacity of the plants your talking about are not that great however.)

You would need hundreds of these things bobbing around in the waves to power a town or city. At some point, people will complain. And when a storm tears one up, and it leaks oil and stuff all over as it's either sunk or deposited on the beach, there will be protests as well.

The solar tech is interesting. I would not mind having more solar power used on my cars. (My A8 has the solar sunroof option, and it uses the blower to move air through the vents and keep the car either cool, or warm depending on the season.) Works very well, but is/was a 3000.00 option when the car was sold, so there are very few of them around.

Anything that brings the panel price down would be nice to see, and I'd use solar power where I could just because I like the idea of using sun energy as much as possible.

However, it does not change the current reality that a growth of electric cars right now will result in more pollution, not less of it.

If they figure out solar paint, or whatever to keep these cars charged up, fine, but I don't see it in our lifetimes.
 

Joel W.

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Adjuster said:
Nice to see there are advances in technology eh?

If they figure out solar paint, or whatever to keep these cars charged up, fine, but I don't see it in our lifetimes.

It's cool Adjuster. Gas is NOT the only option just so you see.. That is where we differ I guess., I see them happening right now, today.. I can't wait for it and I certainly won't wait for you....Nor should you even ask us to wait like you are!!!..:biglaugh: It does not compute dude...

If it's clean, green and mean,,,what the heck are we waiting for?
(that's going in my sig!!!)
There is too much cash left to be made on oil.. Don't you see that yet?
 

IJ.

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Ummmm not to put a downer on all this but you're on a Mk3 forum Joel and there aren't many of our members that buy new Gas cars let alone pay the premium for an electric so until they make them affordable enough for the average guy (read when hell freezes over) I can't see them being a viable alternative!

Sure wait some years and there will be a 2nd hand market of cars with used up batteries then you have the staggering replacment costs to get it up and running again and so on!

I don't really care what I use to power a vehicle but as long as there's a source of Oil in the World Gas cars will be the first choice due to low price and existing infrastructure..
(look at my car for example I run LPG at 1/3 rd the price of gas our Govt have just announced they might be paying a $1000 subsidy to for conversions LPG and at the same time have said they will start taxing LPG in 2012.....)
 

Joel W.

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I understand Ian, but I see members buying new cars and posting pics all the time here... He is telling everyone that it is not possible yet to make a switch or bla bla bla (GW is a joke thread) whatever to anything other than gasoline...... and I just proved him wrong on every single issue in his case..

I am done now with him I think??....

Can I still post up new tech when I see it or are you shutting me down here?

Feel free to use the back space guys...;)
 

IJ.

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LMAO damn no!!

No censorship I enjoy all the new tech keep posting but accept your average Mk3 owner isn't going to pay 90K for the Buzzomatic 2006 that runs for 150 miles then needs 7 hours to recharge ;)

The technology isn't really a viable alternative yet!

I can see it 20 years from now on Buzzomania threads like "My Buzzo 2006 has got a BBP(Blown Battery Pack)" and the replies "Dude you have a 2006 what a loser get a 2007 they rev harder and don't get BBP's"
 

Joel W.

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LMAO,,, Ok...I know we are mostly poor,,, well I am.. (18 year old car for pete sake) but most don't know that the tech is available yet waitng for them. I do....

I want to show it to you if I can? Then he can try and say it won't work for what ever reason and I will prove him wrong again..

I am thick headed like that ya know!!!


;)
 

IJ.

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I can see both sides of the discussion and you both have good points and I'm fine with it as long as it stays friendly ;)!

Debate is good !

The local wave generator I was talking about is an adaption of the Islay and kicks it's arse with some insane internal mach numbers for the air flow.
 

Joel W.

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I have come close to going over the line (more than a few times) and I am sorry for that,, :naughty: but I have been doing my homework and I can back up what I am saying with proof.

I don't care if a 20 year old book says it won't work when it is working right now TODAY!!!
 

Joel W.

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It is definately not viable if people do not even know they exist!!!

That is what I am doing here..


Now, they CAN be viable and we (us here reading these) have no more excuses!!!! Especially when even a few can lower the demand of gas, which bring the price down which saves us all money and pollutions.... duh!!! It's a no brainer.....:icon_conf
 

Joel W.

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IJ. said:
Space Travel "works"

This guy seems to be making a tidy profit!!! LMAO man,, You set them up, I will knock them down!!! (crazy aussies anyays referring to the money man!!!) ;)

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These are not drawings, They are real!!!

http://www.justtheflight.co.uk/news/17450963-space-travel-goes-on-sale.html



8 August 2006Region News
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A travel agency in the Australian city of Perth, the nation's most remote state capital, has made history by becoming one of the first to sell flights into space.

The tickets which are being sold to adventurous travellers for £103,587, give wannabe space tourists the opportunity to ride into the upper atmosphere in one of Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic space flights at the end of 2008 or at the beginning of 2009.

Manager of Bicton travel agency in Perth, Philip Smethurst, who is selling the flights, said: "I am sure there is somebody out there, in Western Australia, who would be willing to do it.

"I know I would, if I had the money."

There are only nine agents in the world who have been appointed to sell tickets for the Virgin Galactic space flights and all of them are in Australia.

The cost of the ticket will give passengers three days of space training, a two to three hour trip into space and the opportunity to float weightlessly above the planet.

A Virgin space port is currently under construction in New Mexico, USA, due to be completed in 2011, but until then the fleet's five aircraft will take off from the Mojave Desert in the US.

So far 150 seats have been sold for the space flights, which will take six passengers at a time into the atmosphere.

More?
 

Joel W.

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It will take time... Once they (the rich) buy it up (and it people demand them), the price will drop like anything else...



If I had the coin I would go... Hell ya!!!
You can buy them here..
http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/


You're NOT knocking anything down
Here are some more then!!! ;)

http://www.traveldailynews.com/new.asp?newid=31666&subcategory_id=095

Space Adventures has previously sent three private explorers to space. In 2001, American Dennis Tito fulfilled his dream of space travel, and in 2002, the `First African in Space` Mark Shuttleworth launched and, last October, American Greg Olsen, took flight. Each client spent eight days aboard the International Space Station. Japanese entrepreneur, Daisuke Enomoto, is training for his spaceflight currently scheduled for September.


And more

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servle...le&cid=1149189890579&path=!health!healthology

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/9...ellite-Launch-Pumps-Up-Space-Travel-Biz.xhtml

http://www.traveldailynews.com/makeof.asp?central_id=1174&permanent_id=7


(my kung fu is strong) :)
 

Joel W.

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Again,,,It will take time!!!

What price is affordable for the average guy?

The first tv was not viable either untill you saw the kid down the street with one at his house.. It will be if you know it is there and you tell your folks to buy you one, and hold your breath till you pass out...:)

Ok, ok, I guess me and 5 companies disagree with you guys that private space flight is viable and profitable... We are idiots!!! Our bad!!!