Plan B

[bonus12]

basically the pill was created to prove that god doesnt exist. (and if he does, he is powerless to stop it.) basically, atheists are winners. :biglaugh: :icon_bigg

 

[SP 7M]

basically the pill was created to prove that god doesnt exist. (and if he does, he is powerless to stop it.) basically, atheists are winners. :biglaugh: :icon_bigg

One hell of an arguement right there. :3d_frown:

 

[91T breezen']

SupraCentral;

You are right, I should have looked at the link, before I chimed in. The pill that I was thinking about, is RU-486 (Abortion pill) A younger lady friend of mine in Reno, had taken this before, (because of her irresponsible sexual behaviour) and had some serious complications. Not to mention the emotional pain she endured, after she realized that she had just aborted her child. Maybe your right, it should be a choice. But then, so should assisted suicide, and "death clinics" and so on, and so on.
As to cloning. I will bet you $100.00 that no human will be cloned in the next 5 years. I would say 20 years, but who wants to wait that long to collect? if they were to clone humans, would they have a soul? Or do you not believe that humans have a soul? Just because Science might be able to do something, does it necessarily mean they should? Morality is what's really in question here.

 

[bonus12]

Plan B is sweet. Women have more rights, and more mistakes, etc. are correctable. less people will be in undesirable situations. the bottom line is: Women have more rights.

So, george bush and other conservatives, live with it. women will soon be treated as equals to men.

 

[Supracentral]

Maybe your right, it should be a choice. But then, so should assisted suicide, and "death clinics" and so on, and so on.

I feel those things should be a choice as well. Your life is your own, do with it what you wish. If you don't have the rights to your own life, how free are you, really?

As to cloning. I will bet you $100.00 that no human will be cloned in the next 5 years. I would say 20 years, but who wants to wait that long to collect? if they were to clone humans, would they have a soul? Or do you not believe that humans have a soul? Just because Science might be able to do something, does it necessarily mean they should? Morality is what's really in question here.

Like I said, I don't want to drag this thread off topic with this stuff, post a thread on clones and we can talk about this all you wish.

 

[91T breezen']

basically the pill was created to prove that god doesnt exist. (and if he does, he is powerless to stop it.) basically, atheists are winners. :biglaugh: :icon_bigg

I know you don't really believe that! God gave man free will on this earth.
Atheists might win a few battles, but are the real losers in the end!!!

 

[DreamerTheresa]

Dear masses, please read "The Handmaid's Tale," as that is where you fundie pro-life, anti-woman types would like the world to go.


If sterilization for women was much easier to accomplish, we wouldn't need so many 'back up plans.'


Besides, for those of you who are against it, have you researched it? It is NOT an "abortion pill." It DOES NOT WORK if an egg has already been fertilized. It's just a high dose of regular birth control to prevent ovulation. There is no life being lost by this pill.

 

[bonus12]

SupraCentral;

You are right, I should have looked at the link, before I chimed in. The pill that I was thinking about, is RU-486 (Abortion pill) A younger lady friend of mine in Reno, had taken this before, (because of her irresponsible sexual behaviour) and had some serious complications. Not to mention the emotional pain she endured, after she realized that she had just aborted her child. Maybe your right, it should be a choice. But then, so should assisted suicide, and "death clinics" and so on, and so on.
As to cloning. I will bet you $100.00 that no human will be cloned in the next 5 years. I would say 20 years, but who wants to wait that long to collect? if they were to clone humans, would they have a soul? Or do you not believe that humans have a soul? Just because Science might be able to do something, does it necessarily mean they should? Morality is what's really in question here.

i think cloning is an interesting prospect. and yes, as long as no one is harmed, i think we should excercise science's advances because we can.

however, i don't think extensive cloning is a good idea. the world has too mnay people on it.

As for the souls thing, i think clones should be treated just as normal people. actually, they really are normal people that were conceieved by different means. whether people have souls is irrelevant.

I know you don't really believe that! God gave man free will on this earth.
Atheists might win a few battles, but are the real losers in the end!!!

you're right, i was kidding about that. but i dont believe in god anyway.

women's rights are more important than what anti-plan B conservatives have to say. in other words, god should have nothing to do with this discusison.

 

[91T breezen']

Dear masses, please read "The Handmaid's Tale," as that is where you fundie pro-life, anti-woman types would like the world to go.


If sterilization for women was much easier to accomplish, we wouldn't need so many 'back up plans.'.

That book is ludacris! That is the extreme, which no one I know, would advocate. Sterilization is always an option, but is rather extreme too. There is nothing wrong with adults having access to birth control. I'm all for that. And, I'm not anti-woman, or womans rights. I just think abortion crosses the line, and infringes on the rights of someone who can't speak for themselves.

 

[Supracentral]

That book is ludacris! That is the extreme, which no one I know, would advocate. Sterilization is always an option, but is rather extreme too. There is nothing wrong with adults having access to birth control. I'm all for that. And, I'm not anti-woman, or womans rights. I just think abortion crosses the line, and infringes on the rights of someone who can't speak for themselves.

So you support the availability of Plan B over the counter without restriction?

 

[SupraMario]

If you don't like them, then you should stay out of them! That's a simple fix!!:aigo: As to "religion" faltering...do you mean "all religion", or just Christianity? You couldn't be further from the truth! You and I, will never see a human cloned! I'll get back to you on that one in about 20 years, when they're saying "we're right on the brink of it", again.
Ain't gonna' happen homie,:nono: I did not say some won't try.

LOL, they also said comps would be the size of houses, and that the earth would go into an Ice age.
Cloning will happen.

and when I say religion, I mean all religion.
Religion is the main cause for 90% of major wars.


rakkasan, If god has a plan, then what type of plan has he got for those starving children in 3rd world countries? they didnt even get a chance. Where is your god when they need him the most?

Before any of you say im an athest, I'm not. I was Catholic, I'm agnostic now. I know their is a god, I just dont need someone else or some book to tell me there is a god.

Science can only explain so much.

 

[shaeff]

i support it, without restriction.

-shaeff

 

[bonus12]

Science can only explain so much.

science can explain olny what humans can explain. face it, humans aren't perfect, theroefore our minds cannot comprehend everything.

for example: where does the universe end? probably too hard to comprehend for us...

god is often used as an explanation for things we can't explain. religion isnt necessary.

 

[whudafux]

for example: where does the universe end? probably too hard to comprehend for us...

Its only too hard to comprehend for the mere fact that we can only travel so far. Pluto is roughly 3.5 billion miles away from the Sun. Thats a long distance to travel and to see. For those that don't know, we've resorted to watching distant stars, with the biggest telescope we can make, for a "wobble" to see if there is anything orbiting it. So technology is the only thing that limits it all.

But forget about this part as it is in no way on topic, lol.

On topic....

I think the pill should be available to everyone. As this thread shows, people have different beliefs. Different religions live in harmony here without any wars. Why can't all our other beliefs? Want an abortion? Get it. Against abortions? Have the baby.

So to sum it up, heres an example. Not me. I don't have a religion by choice. I am by no means an anarchist, I just think its all silly.

I believe in the pill/abortions, I believe in God.

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I dont believe in the pill/abortions, I believe in Allah. Or vice versa. Not trying to be specific. Its the same damn thing. People dont protest religion, which is a belief. Why do people protest other things, that are beliefs?

 

[SP 7M]

...you fundie pro-life, anti-woman types would like the world to go.

That's nice of you to link pro-life and anti-woman ideals. Too bad I can't be put into your convenient little category.

Your comments are laughable. Stick around to entertain us, please.

Bonus12, you've got to be kidding me about women being treated equally to men. It's still a woman's choice to have sex or not, right? Have I missed something?

I don't have the time to address each of you individually, but some of you are so far past ignorant that it's not even funny.

 

[91T breezen']

So you support the availability of Plan B over the counter without restriction?

Yes, to ADULTS only. Not to teenagers, and pre-teens w/o their parents or guardians knowledge. So, with that being said, I guess my answer is no! Those are restrictions.

 

[bonus12]

That's nice of you to link pro-life and anti-woman ideals. Too bad I can't be put into your convenient little category.

Your comments are laughable. Stick around to entertain us, please.

Bonus12, you've got to be kidding me about women being treated equally to men. It's still a woman's choice to have sex or not, right? Have I missed something?

I don't have the time to address each of you individually, but some of you are so far past ignorant that it's not even funny.

u didnt think about non-consent situations, did u? this includes rape, drugged, etc...

as of now, women are not treated the way they deserve (salary, etc...).

you're whacko.

 

[Allan_MA70]

Just because Science might be able to do something, does it necessarily mean they should? Morality is what's really in question here.

Well lets hit home here...

Stem cell research - a possable cure for cancer

currently requires a fertiliszed egg (the claims of not requiring a fertilized egg are yet to be proven)

You tell me that a small group of cells far from an active brain or even a brain cell is too human to used as a possable cure for cancer?

whats moral here an egg and sperm that would never become a life anyway being used to save 1000's of lives and stop the suffering of 1000's more or the views of a church being forced apon everyone else?

http://www.bagism.com/lyrics/imagine-lyrics.html#Imagine

 

[Nick M]

If god has a plan, then what type of plan has he got for those starving children in 3rd world countries? they didnt even get a chance. Where is your god when they need him the most?

What is your plan? What have you done? You just said you don't need him or somebody telling you about him in a book. So which is it?

Much like "the pill" which led to heavy promiscuity
(which many of you probably like) and the heavy spread of uncurable STD's, this will make it worse.

Very few abortions are from rape, according to planned parenthood. So don't use emotion drivle about it is a womans choice or rights. This will be devestating to women in the long run, unless you like Paris Hilton, Madonna, Britney Spears, or other gutter whores and how they act. Yeah, it really shows men what to think of "empowered women".

Just so you know, I am not pro-life, I am anti-abortion.

 

[SP 7M]

Oh yeah, as if you all didn't realize it right away, I'm pro-life. Only in extreme cases, those of which being - but not limited to - rape and incest, I'm in favor of abortion at the earliest possible point.

u didnt think about non-consent situations, did u? this includes rape, drugged, etc...

as of now, women are not treated the way they deserve (salary, etc...).

you're whacko.

Thank you for not reading all of what I said.

You're right, I'm "whacko" - a "whacko" with the ability to read.