Not just another 9/11 conspiracy video

theKnifeArtist

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yep.
i've seen it.
multiple times.
actually have ti posted on my space.. (myspace.com/theknifeartist for those at home)
there's allot of information out there about the truth.
i wish people just knew...
 

91T breezen'

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theKnifeArtist said:
yep.
(myspace.com/theknifeartist for those at home)
there's allot of information out there about the truth.

By the truth, you mean that on 9/11/2001, a group of Islamo/Fascists, with the blessing of a madman (Osama Bin Laden) carried out a terrorist attack on the cities and peoples of New York and Washington D.C.? That is the only truth here. Get used to it. These people hate us, and would do anything to see our country and way of life, gone from the face of this earth!
 

theKnifeArtist

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it's important to know the world leaders and their collaboration in world decisions. The middle eastern leaders are as much our allied as they are our enemies.
 

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Wow, that is the first time I've seen this video, and I have to say that anyone involved in the production of that vid needs to be ground up into hamburger, and fed to cattle.

The level of bull shit being used to try and debunk what I watched live is amazing.

I watched this live on TV from just after the first impact, through the second one and then when the second building fell to when the first building fell.

You see on this assnugget's vid the story about the bomber that crashed into the Empire State Building... Then he does not go into how that building is constructed very different from how the WTC was built. (Outer ring of steel, and floors free hung to the elevator shafts..) The Empire State Building is more traditional, has more steel in it and smaller open spaces as a result. Each girder is spaced throughout the building v/s around the perimiter like the WTC.

He also ignores the fact that both planes were in very high speed dives when they hit, going much faster than they were designed for at those altitudes. It's a wonder the wings were not damaged in the last moments of the dive. I also think that might be why the pentagon had the damage it did. (After talking to a Boeing engineer about this actually, there is good information to indicate that the wings were folded back, engines tucked back into the main "tube" just at the point of impact, and the plane struck will all force concentrated in one very small area. The speed of the crashes are all much higher than generally seen as well. (You know, if a plane is crashing, the pliots try and do everything they can to slow it down before it lands/crashes... ) These guys were full throttle when the planes hit the towers, or the field in PA. (At high speed, the plane can actually dissapear.. Remember that crash years ago in FL when a plane went down at speed into the everglades? You could barely make out the outline in the mud, but the plane was pretty much gone, much like flight 93's crater in PA.)

Here's the final question too. Why would our government go to all this trouble to create such an event when a simple "backpack" nuke in NYC would have done it all so much better. (Come up with a story that terrorists procured a bomb, and then detonated it in NYC....)
 

flubyux2

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i hate to be the thorn because i usually agree w/ greg on alot of stuff...

but, first off; 16 guage T6 aluminum is not going to stand a chance against steel. and i dont care how fast you are going, mach 0.6 or not, you WILL leave wreckage and debris. the laws of physics state that matter cannot be created or destroyed, simply change states. Elemental aluminum melts at ~1600*C. Jet fuel, JP8, burns at about 500*C cooler than that. a burning pool of JP8 will not vaporize wreckage. there was no wreckage inside or outside the pentagon as to indicate a full size commercial passenger jet. at 500+mph airspeed, hitting light poles WILL shear wings off. physics is physics. if it happened to other planes made of the same materials, why wouldnt it happen to these planes? wings wont fold. the aluminum and general construction of the planes wont allow the wings to fold in when they hit an immovable object at 500+mph... especially since you stated they were full tilt Intentionally accelerating to impact. i dont feel that the mass and density of a commecial jet could possibly penetrate three reinforced rings of the pentagon and leave identically sized holes at the point of entry and "exit". there is no projectile that can leave the same sized hole at the point of entry and exit. the point of entry deforms the projectile and dissapates much of the kinetic energy to the point where producing an identically sized entry hole into the 2nd and 3rd ring is impossible... especially considering that the projectile is suposedly an all-aluminum framed commercial jet w/ aluminum skin and a carbon nose cone.

and i know how the WTC towers were built; steel exo-skeleton and essentially floors laid on top of ledges built into the perimiter walls w/ free standing elevator shafts that only access certain groups of floors. there was no single free-standing shaft that went from the lobby to the top floor. the fireball theory that went from the top floors, down the elevator shaft down the bottom floors and knocked loose the marble walls and blew out glass is impossible, even if the shafts Were ventilated.

how can the buildings fall at near-free fall speeds if the support below them was not destroyed? only the top floors were destroyed. and 1200*C is not enough to weaken carbon steel enough to the point where it will deform, weaken or even melt. accounting for the molten pool of steel at the basement of both towers becomes even harder when you try to blame it on burning JP8. the steel was certified to withstand much longer time periods at HIGHER temperatures than what burning JP8 could produce.

and the reason behind all this is called "fear mongering". its a way for government officials to lay the ground work to scare the public into giving up certain freedoms so that the government could police the public and avoid a coup d'tat. if you look back at the 3rd reich and the way adolf hitler gained public support, youll see astonishing similarities. adolf destroyed his own office buildings (the specific names escape me now) and blamed the jews. with this move, he was able to scare the public into following his lead, trusting him and giving up their freedoms in the search for protection against the "evil jews". we all know how that turned out...

btw, Osama bin laden is a CIA plant, or operative. hes Afghani for sure, but he is a CIA assett. we used to be really good friends with Afghanistan, ever watch Rambo 2? we were friends w/ them cuz they hated the USSR. so since we had the same enemy, they were automatically our allies; "The enemy of my enemy is my ally". Osama's trade name is Tim Osman, look it up. its public info. we Trained him, we fed him, we armed him, we rely on him to create international incidents when we have trouble at home. "look over here while we do soemthing we dont want you to see".

lest we not forget, all the information you watched personally, was fed to you by Misinformationalists who have financial interests based in the the major political parties. Fox=republican backed, they would NEVER EVER air information that would discredit, debunk, or otherwise contradict their major source of funding; Never bite the hand that feeds you. Fox news network might as well be called Faux News Network. take every bit of news you see on TV with a grain of salt. its our job as a society and patriots to demand answers and truthes and to evaluate the information presented to us, not take it at face value. dont be a sheep and follow the flock, think for yourself, not what they want you to think. if we cant trust the government whom we vote for and choose to make the right decisions based on what we beleive and know, then we cant trust anyone. we put these people into power because we beleive we can trust them. clearly, we cannot trust them... especially when its all based on FreeMasonry. Dont beleive the glrorification and warm-fuzzy feeling you get from watching Nick Cage in "National Treasure". the Freemasons are a cult following based in satanic rituals which idealize megalomania. our president is a member and so is his father. our president's running mate/cousin is a member as well. so was ben franklin and alot of other political figures. on a side note, our national bird is not an eagle, contrary to popular beleif, its an owl; the mascot for the Freemasons. guess who chose it... Ben franklin, a freemason. its not a coincidence that our charicature of the national bird is the same as the Freemason mascot and the same as the bird from Adolf's 3rd Reich. one of the main beleifs of Freemasonry is to blatantly advertise to the public their intents and symbols. all thru the history of mankind, society is based on symbolism, same holds for Freemasons. there is a reason why there is a tiny owl perched on the front top right corner of the $1 bill. there is a reason why there is the pyramid on the bill, which has the all-seeing eye of the devil. if you circle the letters M-A-S-O-N on the bill, and connect the dots, its a Pentagram. there is also a reason why you can fold the 2001 series $20 bill and create the Burning twin-towers before it ever happend. there WAS prior knowlege and its the governments(Freemason's) agenda that has set the course of events which has already occured.

George H.W. bush annouced "the new world order" during his last term. his son announced it in his first term. the last person to speak of a political "new world order" was Adolf. the Bush Agenda is set by the Masons. the masons have ties and originate from the old monarchy in Jolly old England. which is why we are such good friends with the people we tried to break away from half a century ago... despite the fact that we were trying to get away from the people who oppressed us. you dont see the mexicans being chummy w/ spain do you? when is the last time an oppressed people willingly befriended the people who wronged them and persecuted them less than 200 years ago? for God's sake, the revolutoinary war was practically last year in the evolutionary time line.

but, this is where it all stems from. its more than just your president flying planes into domestic buildings for money and invading a country for oil. its way more complex than anyone could ever imagine. you couldnt even FABRICATE a Fictional novel this deep-seated.
 

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flubyux2 said:
you dont see the mexicans being chummy w/ spain do you? when is the last time an oppressed people willingly befriended the people who wronged them and persecuted them less than 200 years ago? for God's sake, the revolutoinary war was practically last year in the evolutionary time line.


Does slavery in America ring a bell?
 

IJ.

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And on that note consider this an official warning guys!

Really interesting posts so far please try to keep it on topic and not turn into another petty name calling bitch session!

This thread and others are being watched.
 

flubyux2

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you know me 1J ;) ive got diplomatic immunity, not that ill need it.

seriously though... slavery doesnt count because most of the black people of america STILL hold a grudge against modern day "whitey". most of them hold us responsible for what our forefathers did 400 years ago. and... lets be real, black people dont like "The Man"... as in, any single person in a position of power over society. that in itself is inline w/ my theory of an oppressed group of people not willingly befreindng the group of people responsible for their misery. the black people who are upset about slavery today are not friends w/ the white people.
 

Allan_MA70

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IJ. said:
This thread and others are being watched.

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SupraDerk

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flubyux2 said:
you know me 1J ;) ive got diplomatic immunity, not that ill need it.

seriously though... slavery doesnt count because most of the black people of america STILL hold a grudge against modern day "whitey". most of them hold us responsible for what our forefathers did 400 years ago. and... lets be real, black people dont like "The Man"... as in, any single person in a position of power over society. that in itself is inline w/ my theory of an oppressed group of people not willingly befreindng the group of people responsible for their misery. the black people who are upset about slavery today are not friends w/ the white people.


Thank you for telling me what I and everyone in my race think. :)

<-Black

Oh...and you're wrong.
 

JustAnotherVictim

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HellsLegion said:
Old and lame IMO

Let the most awesome person on the internet debunk it =P

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
Those red X's are awesome.

flubyux2 said:
you know me 1J ;) ive got diplomatic immunity, not that ill need it.

seriously though... slavery doesnt count because most of the black people of america STILL hold a grudge against modern day "whitey". most of them hold us responsible for what our forefathers did 400 years ago. and... lets be real, black people dont like "The Man"... as in, any single person in a position of power over society. that in itself is inline w/ my theory of an oppressed group of people not willingly befreindng the group of people responsible for their misery. the black people who are upset about slavery today are not friends w/ the white people.

Yes, burn whitey!!! Whitey must DIE!!!!

:rolleyes:
 

Supracentral

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flubyux2 said:
most of the black people of america STILL hold a grudge against modern day "whitey".

You might want to qualify that with some research or facts.

I'm throwing opinion here, I don't have the facts either. However I don't think you will find that statement to be true in the end. I suspect you'll find that it's an extremely vocal minority.

I could be wrong, anyone have research/stats on this topic?
 

cadman

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I like that type of information. It gives me something to check out on my own. Really, if you go and research everything said, you will have a hard time coming up with hard fact. What is said or written in the paper I wouldn't take as fact. I assume that terrorists don't like the fact that this country stands for freedom and peace. We also have a deep history in God. In God we trust. One nation, under God. That goes against everything they know. They will do what they can to make life for us as hard as they can make it. As long as someone is standing for good, someone will always try and knock it down.

As for who did it, and why? I have no idea what really happened. I am not in the position to research everything, and become an expert on flight, buildings and chemistry. So, in saying that, I take all information I see, and add some salt, then maybe do a little research.

This type of thing is just like anything else. Did we really land on the moon? Were there really alian space craft in Area 51? Who really shot JFK? Anything that happens, and is hard to prove, will be questioned. And spins will be put on stories to side it one way and the other. So, let the debate continue, but just remember, take everything you hear with caution, and be even more cautious of repeating it.