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Ok, someone do the math.
You have about 350,000 lbs of mass going just under the speed of sound, about 580mph at impact. (Full thrust and shallow dives, the condition of all the plans except flight 93 that was full thrust and going basicly straight down, so a vertical dive.)
These planes were not going 150 to 175mph like they would be at landing speeds. They were not crusing along at 530mph and happend to hit a building.
They were used as large, fuel filed kinetic energy weapons, and as you can see on video anytime you want, the combination of massive impact inertia and heat from fires resulted in a building collapse, not just one time, but 3. (Four if you count the roof collapse at the Pentagon.)
The video post you have makes lots of hay about puffs of smoke and debris on lower floors as the buildings were falling down.
This is so simple it's not even a question. What happens when you compress air? At some point it overpowers the container it's in, and that container pops. The building became a huge compressor when the upper floors collapsed into the lower floors. THE AIR PRESSURE would have been intense. Just that pressure wave alone could have killed someone I would think. It's not impossible to realize that air pressure would have blown out some windows as the wave built up, and likely started to push the outer walls wider, so it was literally expanding the building, which caused the floors attached to those walls to drop free, adding to the effect of the pressure wave traveling down the building BEFORE the actual impact of the upper floors physically hit them... The air was ripping the building apart, and everything just came crashing down.
Ok, another one that's easy to understand if you think of the forces at work here.
How much did the WTC buildings weigh? Let's say a few billion pounds. (Not too far off.)
Acclerate that weight to terminal velocity, or about 230mph. How much energy do you now have? (Most calculators will not go that high.)
This energy is just that, energy folks. It has to be dissapated somewhere, and it's perfectly capable of creating heat from friction and pressure that would liquify metal, and leave pools of molten metal for weeks and months..(Oh, wait, thats JUST WHAT HAPPENED!)
Only part of the heat was from the fires. I'd say it was a smaller part actually compared to the energy release of these two falling buildings. I would expect to see molten metal, and some very bizzare fused parts not seen before, and likely never seen again.
You guys are stuck on the idea that jet fuel can't melt metal. I agree. If you take a beam of the metal used in the WTC, and pour jet fuel on it, and light it, nothing will happen to the metal at all.
Now, crash a fully loaded, thottle to stops jet plane into that metal... Yep, the jet fuel is the least of the problems. You just smashed or cut that metal up and took away any structure that metal might have provided. You also just increased the loads on any metal that surrvived in ways it was never designed to hold up to.
Think about this. When the planes hit the towers, they cut huge wide gaping holes into the sides of the impact, AND the other sides of the towers. You can see the wings cut down the support beams. Is that because they were made of razor sharp ginsu knives? No, it was because at that speed, and with that much mass associated, those aluminum and other light weight metal wings have so much energy they cut right through the stronger steel beams like butter, destroying themselves in the process no doubt, but cutting through the steel beams non the less.
You can see the engines of the aircraft going right through the building, and coming out the other side... And you can see other debris going right along with them. Is that because those steel beams can't support the weight of thoese engines? Or the concreate can't hold it up either? It's all about speed and mass v/s a fixed object's inertia. The moving object has more kinetic energy than the fixed object due to the speed factor.
If I take a 115 grain JHP bullet and press it up to your head, it might hurt, but it will not killyou.
If I shoot that bullet out of a pistol at 1100fps, it will blow your fucking dumbass head off.
Understand the relationship between speed and mass now?
This movie put together by some dumbass prick with a liberal agenda is just about the most embarassing thing I've seen lately short of Moore's movies, or Al Gore's rant about his environmentalist theories.
I say again, if you hate this country so much, leave.
You have about 350,000 lbs of mass going just under the speed of sound, about 580mph at impact. (Full thrust and shallow dives, the condition of all the plans except flight 93 that was full thrust and going basicly straight down, so a vertical dive.)
These planes were not going 150 to 175mph like they would be at landing speeds. They were not crusing along at 530mph and happend to hit a building.
They were used as large, fuel filed kinetic energy weapons, and as you can see on video anytime you want, the combination of massive impact inertia and heat from fires resulted in a building collapse, not just one time, but 3. (Four if you count the roof collapse at the Pentagon.)
The video post you have makes lots of hay about puffs of smoke and debris on lower floors as the buildings were falling down.
This is so simple it's not even a question. What happens when you compress air? At some point it overpowers the container it's in, and that container pops. The building became a huge compressor when the upper floors collapsed into the lower floors. THE AIR PRESSURE would have been intense. Just that pressure wave alone could have killed someone I would think. It's not impossible to realize that air pressure would have blown out some windows as the wave built up, and likely started to push the outer walls wider, so it was literally expanding the building, which caused the floors attached to those walls to drop free, adding to the effect of the pressure wave traveling down the building BEFORE the actual impact of the upper floors physically hit them... The air was ripping the building apart, and everything just came crashing down.
Ok, another one that's easy to understand if you think of the forces at work here.
How much did the WTC buildings weigh? Let's say a few billion pounds. (Not too far off.)
Acclerate that weight to terminal velocity, or about 230mph. How much energy do you now have? (Most calculators will not go that high.)
This energy is just that, energy folks. It has to be dissapated somewhere, and it's perfectly capable of creating heat from friction and pressure that would liquify metal, and leave pools of molten metal for weeks and months..(Oh, wait, thats JUST WHAT HAPPENED!)
Only part of the heat was from the fires. I'd say it was a smaller part actually compared to the energy release of these two falling buildings. I would expect to see molten metal, and some very bizzare fused parts not seen before, and likely never seen again.
You guys are stuck on the idea that jet fuel can't melt metal. I agree. If you take a beam of the metal used in the WTC, and pour jet fuel on it, and light it, nothing will happen to the metal at all.
Now, crash a fully loaded, thottle to stops jet plane into that metal... Yep, the jet fuel is the least of the problems. You just smashed or cut that metal up and took away any structure that metal might have provided. You also just increased the loads on any metal that surrvived in ways it was never designed to hold up to.
Think about this. When the planes hit the towers, they cut huge wide gaping holes into the sides of the impact, AND the other sides of the towers. You can see the wings cut down the support beams. Is that because they were made of razor sharp ginsu knives? No, it was because at that speed, and with that much mass associated, those aluminum and other light weight metal wings have so much energy they cut right through the stronger steel beams like butter, destroying themselves in the process no doubt, but cutting through the steel beams non the less.
You can see the engines of the aircraft going right through the building, and coming out the other side... And you can see other debris going right along with them. Is that because those steel beams can't support the weight of thoese engines? Or the concreate can't hold it up either? It's all about speed and mass v/s a fixed object's inertia. The moving object has more kinetic energy than the fixed object due to the speed factor.
If I take a 115 grain JHP bullet and press it up to your head, it might hurt, but it will not killyou.
If I shoot that bullet out of a pistol at 1100fps, it will blow your fucking dumbass head off.
Understand the relationship between speed and mass now?
This movie put together by some dumbass prick with a liberal agenda is just about the most embarassing thing I've seen lately short of Moore's movies, or Al Gore's rant about his environmentalist theories.
I say again, if you hate this country so much, leave.
