need some help with Head advice/HG

[suprafanatic]

nah it'll be fine turns out there was just some miss communication between the shop and the machine shop and me... the head gaset i gave them will work just fine.. they thought i gave them a stock HG..haha.. and the machine shop of course didn't know

 

[jdub]

Sorry to burst your bubble but ......

A Felpro is a stock thickness :3d_frown:

And with a head warped that much, it's 50/50. I'm done (should have been 3 posts ago)...good luck.

 

[TurboWeenie]

When buying from the site listed earlier, www.headsonly.com, like jdub said, I would be concerned about the head's history.

I recently bought a head from CHI, and after inspection, found that it measured 114.046mm. This means that 1.954mm were removed from the head. What's more, there was an area at the back of the head that was not machined flat with the rest of the surface. I requested a refund, sent the head back and am currently waiting on the refund.

Just my .02

btw, anybody know where to get a GOOD rebuilt gte head? :icon_surp

 

[supraslo]

I have had my head decked several times. I am only using a 1.2mm MLS head gasket. And since decking the block .028" and going to the MLS I havent had any overheating issues nor any preignition issues at high boost Like I was expecting.

 

[suprafanatic]

just so you know the felpro gasket i have is NOT stock thickness.. its 1.65MM stock is less than that.

 

[MassSupra89]

Dude, listen to jdub, and everyone else that has given you advice.
Did the machine shop tell you the head was WARPED more than they liked, or decked/planed more than they'd like?
If the head is warped, it's JUNK. The gasket thickness is completely irrelevant. No matter what size gasket you get(btw the fel-pro is stock thickness,your shop was right). It won't change that your head is WARPED. You're going in the complete wrong direction.
But good luck, I look forward to the "What's this waterfall noise? Why is there smoke out my exhaust? Why won't my cams turn?" thread.

 

[flight doc89]

take it to a real head shop and pressure test it. if it passes, deck the head and go thick.
unless you have money in the head, i'd just go snag one at a pull-apart or junkyard and let a shop rebuild it.

my head has been milled twice, took off 10 thousandths this last time around. Pressure tested fine, cams turn fine, life goes on. *whee*

 

[MassSupra89]

You said your head was warped. But you sound like you don't know the difference between warped and decked, or milled.
This is how you check for warpage. Do it, or throw time and money into a useless head.

flight, cams will turn fine after milling, given the head is not warped. If the head is warped, so are the cam caps.

 

[flight doc89]

flight, cams will turn fine after milling, given the head is not warped. If the head is warped, so are the cam caps.

i know, i was saying that the cams turn as proof that my head WASNT too warped

i took the head to the shop to get milled because the head overheated, warped, and blew headgasket.

 

[starscream5000]

The head is warped beyone TSRM recomended specs, don't use that head, get another. Call up Mike in Campton KY, they have plenty of heads for the 7M.

 

[suprafanatic]

i'v done meausrements with the machine shop and with the thickness of the head gasket i have he said it will work fine. by the way i was wrong on the warpage amount.. it was warped .011 not .11 so its barely warped agian like i said there was miss communication between the 3 parties working on this.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

Your terrible typing doesn't help either.

 

[suprafanatic]

lol sorry didnt know this was english class

 

[MassSupra89]

Basic english and typing skills is obviously over-rated these days JAV:3d_frown:

i'v done meausrements with the machine shop and with the thickness of the head gasket i have he said it will work fine. by the way i was wrong on the warpage amount.. it was warped .011 not .11 so its barely warped agian like i said there was miss communication between the 3 parties working on this.

Is that metric or standard?

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

lol sorry didnt know this was english class

If you're not clear how do you expect anyone to know wtf you're talking about.
That's the first thing I could actually read without a problem by you btw. :biglaugh:

 

[jetjock]

If that's 11 thou the thing is a banana...

 

[jdub]

so its barely warped ....

Gosh JJ...don't you know anything?

 

[jetjock]

Well, it could be .11 mm so I'm hedging my comment. I do know one thing though: my turbo doesn't recirculate exhaust gases

 

[suprafanatic]

lol.. no its off by .011mm.. when i called the machine shop i asked,, so your going to have to take off .12? and he said No no no.. only taking off .012mm

 

[flight doc89]

.012mm? thats, like, nothing. i'm betting its .012 in.