MSD ignition question
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You will notice an overall smoother running engine.
It does not translate into power, but you can feel the difference. Basically the fatter spark is going to give you a more complete combustion burn, so your efficiency goes up.
It does not translate into power, but you can feel the difference. Basically the fatter spark is going to give you a more complete combustion burn, so your efficiency goes up.
From what I've read and understand, the difference isn't unlike just switching over to some real nice high performance plug wires and finding the *right* octane gas for your driving habits.
A "fatter" spark, doesn't guarantee a cleaner, more complete burn... a longer spark duration doesn't either.
If the engine were higher compression and the spark getting blown out was a real issue then it might be called for, but on a relatively stock N/A, there's just no point.
A "fatter" spark, doesn't guarantee a cleaner, more complete burn... a longer spark duration doesn't either.
If the engine were higher compression and the spark getting blown out was a real issue then it might be called for, but on a relatively stock N/A, there's just no point.
It is surely not worth the $200+ price cost. However, if you can get one cheap and put it on your NA, you will love the results.
I put an ignition box on all my NA supras and I have had many. Every time I take it back off to change cars, engines, etc. I hate the decrease in response.
I put an ignition box on all my NA supras and I have had many. Every time I take it back off to change cars, engines, etc. I hate the decrease in response.
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Auto Zones duralast starter is nearly 250 bucks.
Toyota's oem is right at 115 bucks..., can't beat that anywhere in this town.
Toyota's oem is right at 115 bucks..., can't beat that anywhere in this town.
ig-ni-ti-on = starter, and other things as well. Don't get your nickers in a twist. I don't know if there are any hp gains to be had. But even if going msd improves my throttle responce then...., I am all for it. I know every time I have ever given something a tune up it runs better. So upping the anti on the ignition system is something I would do even if to only crispen up my rides responce.
ignition doesnt nesiscarly mean starter
Main Entry: ig·ni·tion
Function: noun
Pronunciation: ig-'ni-sh&n</I>
1 : the act or action of igniting: as</I> </I>a : the starting of a fire</I> </I>b : the heating of a plasma to a temperature high enough to sustain nuclear fusion</I> </I>
2 : the process or means (as an electric spark) of igniting a fuel mixture</I>
I think the second one applies
Main Entry: ig·ni·tion
Function: noun
Pronunciation: ig-'ni-sh&n</I>
1 : the act or action of igniting: as</I> </I>a : the starting of a fire</I> </I>b : the heating of a plasma to a temperature high enough to sustain nuclear fusion</I> </I>
2 : the process or means (as an electric spark) of igniting a fuel mixture</I>
I think the second one applies
The coolest thing about an MSD ignition, the ones the little rev limiter plug ins is when you take your car to get it worked on you can throw in one for 4k rpm max and the mechanics can't burn your car up. One thing I've found over the years with a nice high performance car is they want to drive it more than they want to fix it. Once they do fix it they want to see just how fast your car is. I used to take my 68 440 charger in for repairs and everyone there had that look in thier eyes of YA BABY as soon as that customer leaves we are goiing for a ride. So at least they are limited in the rpms with the right MSD which I had on my charger and would always put in the 4k rev limiter.
suprageezer: Lol, you are a smart man. I do enjoy working on the rare muscle car that comes in, and the "test drive" is exhilerating. I'm smart enough not to drive it like its mine, though. I'd hate to break or, worse, wreck such a beautiful work of mechanical art. Back on subject, though.
An MSD box is a very useful piece of equipment, if you have the right one. You can set the rev limiter, adjust ignition and timing curves, and more. Here's a few you might like:
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_6.htm
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_7.htm
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_1.htm
Enjoy!!
An MSD box is a very useful piece of equipment, if you have the right one. You can set the rev limiter, adjust ignition and timing curves, and more. Here's a few you might like:
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_6.htm
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_7.htm
http://www.msdignition.com/sci_1.htm
Enjoy!!
I can tell I don't need an msd ignition because non of that is priced so I can't afford it.
Don't start with me 87 we have both been coming here forever and never had a scrape yet...., let's not start now. Alright..., and be careful not to shoot your eye out.
Someone settle this. Does msd wires and plugs make any difference on an na..., or is it the being done all the way around or in correlation to another application or modification. I can definitley not spend 100$ on msd wires.
But I think all of that and the air intake all pull together to make the auto run more smooth, so I will probably do it and if there is no gain I'll feel fine about it every time I am under the hood knowing I put something better than average under there.
Don't start with me 87 we have both been coming here forever and never had a scrape yet...., let's not start now. Alright..., and be careful not to shoot your eye out.
Someone settle this. Does msd wires and plugs make any difference on an na..., or is it the being done all the way around or in correlation to another application or modification. I can definitley not spend 100$ on msd wires.
But I think all of that and the air intake all pull together to make the auto run more smooth, so I will probably do it and if there is no gain I'll feel fine about it every time I am under the hood knowing I put something better than average under there.
lol sry, I wasn't meaning it in that way, its just when you put the hypens it reminded me of a dictonary..didnt mean to stir sh*t up.supramacist said:
supramacist said:
easy there, killer. i just wondered if someone else had mentioned something about a starter and then later edited or deleted their posts. if i had been pissed, my post woulda been something like this:
"who the fuck got us off topic and said something about starters?"
cuel said:
thanks for the links, cuel!
I wasn't upset either, I'm just naturally mouthy.
I hate to even find out what aa starter box costs. That's something I will come back to after I get the auto built and or started.
I hate to even find out what aa starter box costs. That's something I will come back to after I get the auto built and or started.
supramacist said:
gotcha, if you need cheap parts check with www.rockauto.com, i picked up a nippon denso rebuilt starter for $60 or so.
I have the 8.8mm wires and a blaster coil(not an MSD ignition box)on my car. I can't tell you if it makes much of a difference in performance on this car. They were my first upgrade. The main reason I use these wires is their longevity. They won't break down like a stock, or worse, off name brand wire will, and will easily handle the increased voltage of the upgraded coil. If you do decide to put an ignition box in later, you have to use these, or a comprable, plug wire. The stock ones won't handle the power, and will cause some nasty problems in a short time.
The blaster coil is less expensive than the box??? Yes? no?
Wich one is easiest to install because I don't skimp or cut corners on parts. I have heard and seen more of the blast coil than the box.
Wich one is easiest to install because I don't skimp or cut corners on parts. I have heard and seen more of the blast coil than the box.