This thread is a riot.
I hear the cry that "we will not be ignored" from the non land owners who are making it on their own.. BIG DEAL MAN.
I lived on 450.00 per month for 6 years while going to college. (Sometimes less, and very few times more, and I worked all my summers to save up money for school, rode a bike to save money, drove old beater cars when I could afford them, and walked when I could not.) That 450 includes my rent, and my food bills, everything.
When I got out of school, it was not easy either. My first job only paid 14k a year. It was a few years before I was making 28k again, what I made BEFORE I WENT TO SCHOOL... (And only after I decided to go back to welding and mechanical work, a skilled trade I was making money in before I went to school to get a degree...)
So, you guys complaining about the cost of living, or education, I've been there, and done that and have, like you, worked my ass off to get where I'm at today.
Does that change my opinion that only land owners and military should vote? Nope, not in the least.
Renters and others who don't own land are not worthy of voting rights, and don't appreciate what they are voting for since they often don't pay federal income taxes at all anyway. And they pay little or no state taxes beyond the sales taxes we are all burdened with to pay for social programs and whatnot that liberal elite jackasses have forced on us by passing laws to spend money they never earned.
History has proven that if you give those that have not earned the money the right to vote about how to spend it, they will vote themselves wealth, and will become even less inclined to work and make money since they can just vote themselves more of it.
Your own comments on here have affirmed this fact.
On the two pages of wiki and websters trying to figure out what a Liberal Elite point of view is, I'll make it simple for you all.
Liberals in this context, are more interested in spending your money on whatever they think you should want them to than producing that money with hard work. They will tell you flat out that you don't know how to spend your own money, and they who are educated and in power know better than you on how to spend it wisely for social change and equality for all as a result. (Communist ideals disguised as "socialism for the democracy..") Whatever.
"Elite" people in this context, are the ones who have a masters degree, or think they should, and know that they are smarter than you are. The really funny ones are the "New Rich" liberal elite's who made it big selling reccords, acting, or writing a book, and now with all this money and fame, they suddenly have the ear of the media to listen to them, so they repeat what they are told by liberal elite handlers to promote whatever socialistic program is on the agenda for the moment. (It's running the gamut from anti war, to global warming fear mongering and every other socialist/communist ideal they can heap on during an interview.) I wonder if they realize what puppets they look and sound like on national TV? (Gina Davis is lately a good example.. Climbing up in trees, or the double whammy communist duo of Susan Sarandon and live in Tim Robbins spouting off about war and gobal politics.. Like either of them have a clue about the world beyond Hollywood? ) At least Joel, you can take solice in the fact that they are likely land owners, and can vote!
BTW, I bought my first house when I was 26, so I would not have been able to vote in my world untill then, and I'm pretty OK with that idea. No need to rebel and get off your soap box for the ammo box man, just buy a home.
Your comment about government holding you back from buying land was weird? What are you talking about? Learn a skill, get a job and save your money. Then buy your home/land. Easy as can be man. There are no laws against it, and in fact, the laws are in your favor as a first time home buyer! I'm not really going to see those laws changing, and I've already proven that most of the Americans producing something already are land owners anyway, so what's the problem?
