MHG Viton Hell....

[Zumtizzle]

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showpost.php?p=352950&postcount=35

Hmmm.

I wonder if i can still get this.

 

[Zumtizzle]

Hmm, after going bk to work on the MHG I noticed there was no Viton on the inside layers of my MHG..... My first initial expression was YAY!! then I was like whoa wait :/... Have any of yall noticed this on yall's MHG's?....

Mine is the same way..... i think it's done purposely.

 

[Sside]

Mine is the same way..... i think it's done purposely.

Hmm, I am now actually advancing with the viton removal by using a dishwashing scrubbie thing....... Since your MHG is the same I asume copper spray on just both sides top and bottom before install..... That other stuff looks good but I already bought the copper spray.....

 

[isnms]

First – You take good pictures so people can help you :bigthumb:
Second – This is probably good wisdom:

Be safe, remove any rivet that's at all questionable when you install a new MLS gasket.

Third – You also have the info for cleaning and reusing.

Last – I wanted to show you what a rivet that interferes looks like:

 

[Sside]

First – You take good pictures so people can help you :bigthumb:
Second – This is probably good wisdom:

Third – You also have the info for cleaning and reusing.

Last – I wanted to show you what a rivet that interferes looks like:

Thanks for the Picture props lol..... I will remove all rivets that seem in the way. After going thru most pages on reusing a MHG I got it down but wht worries me is wht caused this... Do NOT want to do this again in a long time hehe......

 

[rayall01]

Head gasket defective maybe, improper torque, poor head and/or block prep. I didn't see any mention of what type of fasteners you used, but if you reused the stock bolts, they could be junk. Get ARP's if you don't have them.

 

[Sside]

Head gasket defective maybe, improper torque, poor head and/or block prep. I didn't see any mention of what type of fasteners you used, but if you reused the stock bolts, they could be junk. Get ARP's if you don't have them.

I have and used arp's..... The shop that did the resurfacing is probably one of the best in the Houston Area.... I have seen worst finishes on head and block that have sealed with one of these cometics..... The procedures on tightning were done with me and Derek(Jdma70) and we were as careful as could be... Knowing Derek for a while and his Love for these cars, I can say one thing... The dude is ANAL about doing things right and double checking directions and procedures.... Now, maybe the torque wrench I rented from Oreilys has me thinking... When I broke those baby's loose I can defently say some were much tighter then others... I did 4 passes to remove emm . hmmmmm???

 

[CajunKenny]

Are they ARP Studs or Bolts? And did you do a retorque after five heat cycles?

This is very important and is especially crucial when using bolts!

 

[Sside]

Are they ARP Studs or Bolts? And did you do a retorque after five heat cycles?

This is very important and is especially crucial when using bolts!

Arp bolts.... And nope, I did not retorque...... I am berely hearing about the 5 cycles thing... I was planning to retorque after the engine was broken in at about 1000 miles.... Never even got close to it.....

 

[rayall01]

I have and used arp's..... The shop that did the resurfacing is probably one of the best in the Houston Area.... I have seen worst finishes on head and block that have sealed with one of these cometics..... The procedures on tightning were done with me and Derek(Jdma70) and we were as careful as could be... Knowing Derek for a while and his Love for these cars, I can say one thing... The dude is ANAL about doing things right and double checking directions and procedures.... Now, maybe the torque wrench I rented from Oreilys has me thinking... When I broke those baby's loose I can defently say some were much tighter then others... I did 4 passes to remove emm . hmmmmm???

Wasn't specifically saying you did something wrong, just pointing out the things I could think of that might cause the problem.

 

[Sside]

Wasn't specifically saying you did something wrong, just pointing out the things I could think of that might cause the problem.

Oh nana lol.. Sorry if I sounded offended... I kno people(noobs) do that all the time but nah... I was just trying to knock out things to see of I could get to the problem... But indeed it could have been any of those... I guess I can only remove rivets and try again with a clean Viton free MHG with copper spray...

 

[CyFi6]

They leave the center layer bare on purpose, kind of the same idea of using friction steel friction and so on for clutches, you dont mate up two friction compound surfaces together. Brake clean with a toothbrush worked really well for me, took the stuff off rather quickly.

 

[jdub]

When I re-use one of these, I spray both sides of all layers with the copper spray.

 

[Sside]

They leave the center layer bare on purpose, kind of the same idea of using friction steel friction and so on for clutches, you dont mate up two friction compound surfaces together. Brake clean with a toothbrush worked really well for me, took the stuff off rather quickly.

I tried the tooth brush with brake spray 1st... It felt like I was just tickling it, it didnt bother the viton at all.... Note, the MHG was on there for a month or two were the car was berely driven at all a few times....

 

[Crypton2006]

Acetone works wonder's that is what i use to remove viton

 

[rayall01]

I tried the tooth brush with brake spray 1st... It felt like I was just tickling it, it didnt bother the viton at all.... Note, the MHG was on there for a month or two were the car was berely driven at all a few times....

Easy off oven cleaner! Try it!

 

[Sside]

Well, its a new day... In a little bit I will head down to Home Depot and see about the paint thinners and Aceton...... I will continue to use this sponge with a rough top for washing dishes... It was the only thing that made progress yesterday....... By the way, I would like to thank all of yall who have posted on this thread... I appriciate yalls support very much.... Hopefully this thread will be coming to an end soon and the sup will be back on the road .......

 

[IJ.]

Soak in thinners and the shit wipes off with a rag.....

 

[Sside]

Well I bought acetone today in hopes this would do the trick... Soaked it in aceton for a couple of hours but when I came back it was evaporated.... I checked to see if it weakend the Viton at all but it didnt do anything.... Sigh, fustration is beginnig to kick in.... Its soaking under the rest of the aceton can right now... I will leave it untill tomorro morning... :/

 

[rayall01]

Well I bought acetone today in hopes this would do the trick... Soaked it in aceton for a couple of hours but when I came back it was evaporated.... I checked to see if it weakend the Viton at all but it didnt do anything.... Sigh, fustration is beginnig to kick in.... Its soaking under the rest of the aceton can right now... I will leave it untill tomorro morning... :/

What ever you use, you can't let it dry out. That just lets it solidify again. Why is this so much trouble? I did mine in about 20 minutes.:3d_frown: