MAFT-Pro Tuning Thread Unofficial and Uncensored
- Thread starter chriso
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Another thing I would like to do is tune my wot tables so its there without the tracking, but I'm not sure how much the wot tracking is adding/pulling, the tuner pro does not log this!! That sucks, maybe i can setup cf/rpm/ a/f / on the sensor monitor and video tape it on a 1/4 mile pull. I hope the new t-pro has cf, that would make it real easy. I never really even eye balled it under heavy boost to see what its doing.
Chris ....lol....theres football on , you were supposed to go earlier! I have the advantage of games starting at noon here. I remember I was stationed in Hawaii, pre game show started at like 6:30 a.m.
Halftime....Bears 27, Bills 0, yyyyyyyyes!!
Chris ....lol....theres football on , you were supposed to go earlier! I have the advantage of games starting at noon here. I remember I was stationed in Hawaii, pre game show started at like 6:30 a.m.
Halftime....Bears 27, Bills 0, yyyyyyyyes!!
you can see what the pro is doing for fuel correction...
look at your CF. it will be a 100 normally. if it goes above that, it's adding, if it's going below, it's pulling fuel..
i had to disable mine cause with the methanol i keep hitting FC.
also i tried some of your settings and the car is pulling harder, smoother and just feels better.
i wanna get to the point where i can have a good tune and i can leave it there. i want the TCCS to settle down and learn all these settings.
i was running 22psi just now and it felt pretty good..
once i get this methanol dialed in, i'll be more happy
look at your CF. it will be a 100 normally. if it goes above that, it's adding, if it's going below, it's pulling fuel..
i had to disable mine cause with the methanol i keep hitting FC.
also i tried some of your settings and the car is pulling harder, smoother and just feels better.
i wanna get to the point where i can have a good tune and i can leave it there. i want the TCCS to settle down and learn all these settings.
i was running 22psi just now and it felt pretty good..
once i get this methanol dialed in, i'll be more happy
Mike: Fp Running is 34psi, Static pressure (running w/vac disconnected) is 40psi. Do you think I am running too high for 550's?
Supralover2000: My F In Mode settings do not have a "0" or "No MAF Connected" setting. These are the settings available to me on my Pro unit under that page:
AFC Mode
3" MAF LTI
3.5" MAF LS1
LS1/LS6 85mm
4" Mega MAF
GN Extreme
85mm w/screen
3.5" MAF LTI
DSM 1G
EVO8 DSM3G
3000GT DSM2G
Supra MK-III
Mode: 12 all the way through 200
Supralover2000: My F In Mode settings do not have a "0" or "No MAF Connected" setting. These are the settings available to me on my Pro unit under that page:
AFC Mode
3" MAF LTI
3.5" MAF LS1
LS1/LS6 85mm
4" Mega MAF
GN Extreme
85mm w/screen
3.5" MAF LTI
DSM 1G
EVO8 DSM3G
3000GT DSM2G
Supra MK-III
Mode: 12 all the way through 200
TunerPro Question:
Do you guys know how to adjust (if possible) the Monitoring page to display at least four graphs at the same time. I can only display 3/4 at a time without scrolling up and down. I wanted to get a screen shot of the 1.RPM, 2.AFR, 3.Boost, 4.TPS Voltage.
Do you guys know how to adjust (if possible) the Monitoring page to display at least four graphs at the same time. I can only display 3/4 at a time without scrolling up and down. I wanted to get a screen shot of the 1.RPM, 2.AFR, 3.Boost, 4.TPS Voltage.
.....and here's Aaron chiming in, welcome to the thread !!! I dropped my mainscale down from -10 to -15 last night and it seemed to do a world of good (so far as I can tell for now). Aaron, are you running 550's or bigger? and is that 37 psi static or running?bigaaron said:
Malloy
AH, I was confused because the manual has CF= AFR tracking correction factor, but on the tuner pro, it says closed loop correction%, which is totally misleading, because you are in open loop when its correcting , no? Anyhow, I got 95.31 cf @21psi5630 rpm so its pulling ~4.7, its always within 95-105 wot, so I'm right where i want it without the tracking, I guess I can bring that lean max in afr tracking page back to like -7%, in case the wide band ever fails, and Ill leave the rich at 25 since it wont hurt anything.
Thats excellent that that settings are helping you! Thats what this is all about!
Do you need the methanol? What does it do for you??
BTW I got the aim, its toookwik4u89, same as here with an extra "o".
Ken
AH, I was confused because the manual has CF= AFR tracking correction factor, but on the tuner pro, it says closed loop correction%, which is totally misleading, because you are in open loop when its correcting , no? Anyhow, I got 95.31 cf @21psi5630 rpm so its pulling ~4.7, its always within 95-105 wot, so I'm right where i want it without the tracking, I guess I can bring that lean max in afr tracking page back to like -7%, in case the wide band ever fails, and Ill leave the rich at 25 since it wont hurt anything.
Thats excellent that that settings are helping you! Thats what this is all about!
Do you need the methanol? What does it do for you??
BTW I got the aim, its toookwik4u89, same as here with an extra "o".
Ken
Chris, I think you need to drop the FP down.
In the aldl monitor window, get the cursor on the top edge of the box, click and drag it up to make the window bigger, then you will see 4.
In the aldl monitor window, get the cursor on the top edge of the box, click and drag it up to make the window bigger, then you will see 4.
Yeah, I'm going to try it at 32 (which is where I had it originally when I installed my Walbro and AFPR) and see what that does.tookwik4u89 said:
I also tried that trick that you suggested with resizing the graphs but even with all the toolbars gone I can't quite get the whole four graphs in. Either the top or bottom one is cut off. Anyway, nbd.
chriso said:
I have 550's and it's at 37psi with the vacuum line disconnected.
Most of the low and mid settings are + a few digits, but wot is -6 to -18.
Posting my exact numbers would not help because every setup is different, and I don't want to do damage to anyones engine by recommending afr settings.
So far everyone I think on here is smart enough to make changes little at a time, not just copy, but newbies beware!
This thread kicks ASS!
This thread kicks ASS!
progress is being made...
took, i just tried to IM you. i'll have my AIM on all night.. feel free to shoot me a line.
i run the methanol above 20psi just to be safe.
the only problem i'm having now is a choppy idle. i'm going to clean the TB and IAC to see if that helps.
also i think running a .22gap can also cause a poor idle.
took, i just tried to IM you. i'll have my AIM on all night.. feel free to shoot me a line.
i run the methanol above 20psi just to be safe.
the only problem i'm having now is a choppy idle. i'm going to clean the TB and IAC to see if that helps.
also i think running a .22gap can also cause a poor idle.
Talked to Rich, told me to change the load source from map to tps, seemed to work at part throttle cruise, not running extremely rich, but at idle we are looking for 14.7 sweeping lean off the scale again, and thats with +15 on the mainscale with 440's. This thing is killing me, just when I felt like working with it.
Wayne
Wayne
Your the only one I,ve seen with + anything on the mainscale, but most of us have 550+ inj, try to tune the rest of it overall starting with the mainscale, then the tables and worry about idle later, trying to tune idle with mainscale is gonna get you all ass backwards.
3rdtimearound said:
Leave the load source at "Use MAP" unless you have the patience to re-work the VE table. That option is for those odd cars with really radical cams that can't get a decent tune using the standard speed density algorithm.
(this new feature is known as "hybrid speed density" and is reportedly what some of the Ferraris use........)
Just found this thread guys. Anyone in the Detroit area? ......
(besides Jonez, his car is still in pieces AFAIK)
I'm here to help. Lets nail this stuff down.
BTW, Chris, F-In Mode is not that big of a deal. Set it for 22, since you will probably hook up the timing monitor at some point.
Bob
Mike...I set the timing base again and put the correct back to 0. Now I got 30 advance @19psi &5300 rpm, it showed 80 - 108 adv at some points ....lol, I think that the monitor is real touchy, maybe it has to be driven awhile to settle out, I was obviously not running 100 advance as I havent hooked up timing control. It seems with a shorter log file recorded the values can be all over the place, but at high boost it showed 30 adv pretty steady.
Bob....any word on new tuner pro?
Bob....any word on new tuner pro?
If the timing monitor is reading 100+ then there is a math 'issue' in the pro software. An easy fix once we figure out when it happens.
The enhanced Tunerpro is still in process, I am waiting on the next beta....
For now lets make sure everyones Tunerpro is working properly so that we can all tune our stuff......
Bob
The enhanced Tunerpro is still in process, I am waiting on the next beta....
For now lets make sure everyones Tunerpro is working properly so that we can all tune our stuff......
Bob
I just changed my tm correct back to zero, it never did that before, I'll drive it a bit, then log again and see what happens, it was pretty consistent before. I have noticed abnormal spikes in the playback on timing and a/f once in a while that I know it is not actually doing. Maybe its my laptop, I will go through the cables and such before I log again.
Hey Bob,
Does the tune response tuning page settings have any bearing on the idle characteristics what so ever? It only gives input on a from "idle tip in", right?
Are there any more user input settings that will help determine idle quality, or possibly cause it to deteriorate besides mainscale and low load?
Wayne
Does the tune response tuning page settings have any bearing on the idle characteristics what so ever? It only gives input on a from "idle tip in", right?
Are there any more user input settings that will help determine idle quality, or possibly cause it to deteriorate besides mainscale and low load?
Wayne