Letting the cat out of the bag - 13" OEM Quality Front Brakes for the MA70 Platform

Highnitro

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this color?

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RacerXJ220

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Highnitro;1168794 said:
this color?

Brembo13%20inch.jpg

That's so damned hot. Sex.

Matches my gold coatings on my exhaust housings and the titanium strut bar perfectly.

This is the color I want if you can make it happen Doward.
 

bowsercake

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honestabe;1167885 said:
the traction you'll get out of 16's doesn't warrant BBK's. Pick up a set of 17's and get some real rubber, then you'll need something like this Bowser. No offense bro, just trying to put things into perspective.

265/45R16 Kumho Ecsta W710
 

Supra469

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....So to all the guys that are brake savvy and know all the technical ins & outs of braking.....my comparison question is:

How do these brakes compare to say, the Nissan 4-pots? AKA:Nightpager. Performance and cost.

And I ask that because of the positive comments from a trusted member here, BIC who has nothing but praise for the Nightpager setup. This is a straight-up question and not intended to 'trigger' anyone to flame!!


Also, I too am very interested in this as I want/need to have my brakes improved! Thanks.
 

Zazzn

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well this looks VERY promising. I just want the car to stop the fade... I have massive fade when I go form 200KPH to about 70-100 k my rotors are crap but pads are porterfield...

Anyways, I'm looking real close guys, I need something to haul down my beat..... Do you have plans for bigger 14" rotors/ calipers? I'd love a kit that would allow GS400 calipers.
 

Doward

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Supra469;1169493 said:
....So to all the guys that are brake savvy and know all the technical ins & outs of braking.....my comparison question is:

How do these brakes compare to say, the Nissan 4-pots? AKA:Nightpager. Performance and cost.

And I ask that because of the positive comments from a trusted member here, BIC who has nothing but praise for the Nightpager setup. This is a straight-up question and not intended to 'trigger' anyone to flame!!


Also, I too am very interested in this as I want/need to have my brakes improved! Thanks.


Cost:
Brackets + Hubs should be VERY similar in cost (I'm seeing the nightpager brackets go for around $250 / set, and I'm trying to hit that price point, AND INCLUDE the hubcentric rings!)

Rotors: The rotors for my kit are ~$40 @ Autozone. I don't know how much (or even if you can get) the Brembo 12.6" rotors for the 350z.

That's another point - The Nightpager kit uses 12.6" rotors, my kit uses 13" rotors.

Calipers: The calipers for my kit are around $300 for both including caliper brackets. How much are the Nissan calipers for the Nightpager kit? Again, I don't know.

My kit uses PBR dual piston full floating calipers. I'm hoping to hear back from PBR tomorrow, but it appears these calipers/rotors are identical to the calipers/rotors used in the 2003 SVT Cobra. THIS IS UNCONFIRMED STILL - that said, the '03 Cobra goes from 60-0 in ~124 feet. In a 3700+ lbs car. With 11.65" rear brakes (ours are 11.45", IIRC).

The single biggest thing in my opinion, over the Nightpager kit, is that I use the entire freaking pad. None of this 'uses 80% of the pad' BS.

Cliff notes:

Bigger rotors, bigger pads, full contact patch, shooting for the same price. Draw your own conclusions ;)
 

Doward

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Zazzn;1169529 said:
well this looks VERY promising. I just want the car to stop the fade... I have massive fade when I go form 200KPH to about 70-100 k my rotors are crap but pads are porterfield...

Anyways, I'm looking real close guys, I need something to haul down my beat..... Do you have plans for bigger 14" rotors/ calipers? I'd love a kit that would allow GS400 calipers.

Why? The GS400 uses 296mm rotors. That's 11.6" - SMALLER than stock.

Now, the GX470 on the other hand, uses 338mm rotors. That's 13.3" - which would be bigger than even the kit I'm building now.

There's a lot more to a good brake, than just the amount of force the caliper can squeeze with.

Go look up the 03-04 SVT Cobra brakes - I've seen many tests from Road and Track, C&D, etc - the brakes have extremely little fade.

I'll be bolting my own personal set on Jeff's (7MBoost's) Supra, and we'll get a VERY good back-to-back indication of stock vs these. It'll be fun :)
 

Txsupra

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.....maybe we'll do a stock 60-0 test tomorrow.[/QUOTE]


This just keeps getting better. No other brake system gives you testing like this.
 

Doward

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I've got an engineer's mind - I want to see absolute, definitive proof that the things I spend my money on improve my vehicle my a worthwhile margin.

Are these racing brakes? No. Andy's got an AMAZING kit if you need, for $1200. For a little over half of that, however (or hey - the price of one really good STOCK brake job) you can have a setup that will perform at levels well beyond what we got, stock.

These are the brakes I firmly believe should have come on the Supra from the factory.

Depending on how this group buy works out, I may start on working on a 12" rear brake kit (already started some research ;))
 

prism1

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way to go! I'm so happy people like you exist. You make the supra community a great thing to be a part of.
 

Doward

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haha - isn't senility calling yet? Or can't you remember? ;)

I'll have the last of my quotes around 9am tomorrow morning!

Group buy should start up tomorrow then. :) I'm also getting the brackets made from Masonite to do all the test fitting and ensure the production run will be made 100% correctly. Be real stupid to run 100 or so of these off, just to find a flaw due to miscommunication or some such nonsense, wouldn't it? ;)