Global Warming is over. (Really, it is. No joke.)
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Shit, I wrote the book.
Tonight I will go into detail into the how and whys, as there is much more evidence against than for. Which is why there is so many that signed the petition against, compared to for.
Since the media is left wing with an agenda, you can not use a link to site from the left wing.
So, if the recent weather doesn't prove anything... 
No, the global warming theories (we're casuing global warming, ozone layer depletion, etc) are all completely crack. Global warming is natural. It is a cycle. Why did we have Ice Ages? How did we get out of the Ice Ages? Duh-'global warming'. The earth got hotter. Pretty simple, really. There's a lot of scientific crap I could say, but just trust me if anyone really cares then I'll waste my time. Its a natural cycle as the earth's orbit gets closer and further from the sun. No big deal, people. Carry on with your lives.
No, the global warming theories (we're casuing global warming, ozone layer depletion, etc) are all completely crack. Global warming is natural. It is a cycle. Why did we have Ice Ages? How did we get out of the Ice Ages? Duh-'global warming'. The earth got hotter. Pretty simple, really. There's a lot of scientific crap I could say, but just trust me if anyone really cares then I'll waste my time. Its a natural cycle as the earth's orbit gets closer and further from the sun. No big deal, people. Carry on with your lives.
Thank you I'm always trying to tell people that but for some reason they'd rather put the blame on themselves and us.ChadMKIII said:So, if the recent weather doesn't prove anything...
No, the global warming theories (we're casuing global warming, ozone layer depletion, etc) are all completely crack. Global warming is natural. It is a cycle. Why did we have Ice Ages? How did we get out of the Ice Ages? Duh-'global warming'. The earth got hotter. Pretty simple, really. There's a lot of scientific crap I could say, but just trust me if anyone really cares then I'll waste my time. Its a natural cycle as the earth's orbit gets closer and further from the sun. No big deal, people. Carry on with your lives.
No matter what we'll all be good and dead by the time anything happens of global warming anyways
Didnt we just have a small ice age like 200 years ago?
thought I saw something on history channel about it.
thought I saw something on history channel about it.
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ChadMKIII said:So, if the recent weather doesn't prove anything...
No, the global warming theories (we're casuing global warming, ozone layer depletion, etc) are all completely crack. Global warming is natural. It is a cycle. Why did we have Ice Ages? How did we get out of the Ice Ages? Duh-'global warming'. The earth got hotter. Pretty simple, really. There's a lot of scientific crap I could say, but just trust me if anyone really cares then I'll waste my time. Its a natural cycle as the earth's orbit gets closer and further from the sun. No big deal, people. Carry on with your lives.
That's not really what global warming is about. It's a lot about the greenhouse effect, not so much the natural greenhouse effect because as the name states...it's natural, but the effect that modern humans are creating. Due to all the carbon dioxide and other emissions we're pumping into the air, we're adding to the atmosphere and not allowing heat to escape. The more we emit, the hotter the earth gets. Which isn't neccessarily a bad thing because plants and trees eat up carbon dioxide and spew out oxygen.
Depends on how you look at it I guess. I don't really care though cause like what's been stated before...I'll be dead.
michael crighton just went up in my book. definitely gonna read this one!
global warming is totally a scam. the earth goes in cycles, all meteorology classes teach this.
global warming is totally a scam. the earth goes in cycles, all meteorology classes teach this.
Actually, a huge number of scientists that as little as 15 years ago thought the issue was unfounded, have done a complete reversal and now support the theory. I am not exactly a scientist, but I would lump myself in with those that have changed their minds.
Climatology studies and computer models have proven that independent of the earths natural cycles, average temperatures have risen on earth, and there is a direct correlation between this rise and human activity.
You can believe whatever you want, but the evidence is pretty significant. The good thing is the earth is really quite forgiving, and a couple million years after we wipe ourselves out it will be good as new again!
Climatology studies and computer models have proven that independent of the earths natural cycles, average temperatures have risen on earth, and there is a direct correlation between this rise and human activity.
You can believe whatever you want, but the evidence is pretty significant. The good thing is the earth is really quite forgiving, and a couple million years after we wipe ourselves out it will be good as new again!
A lot (probably most) of you guys are WAY too young to remember it, but there was a big "global cooling" scare back in the 1970's. I'm not kidding you. Go to a library and search through the news from back then.
Acid rain and global cooling were the "big deal" in the 70's.
If you check the trends, global temperatures showed cooling from 1945 to the early/mid 1970's. People were freaking out, blaming industrialization and automobiles for the problem (much like they are today about global warming) and unfortunately (or fortunately) - the trend reversed itself just about the time the press & the public were getting all wadded up about it.
The gas crisis had a lot to do with it as well. The growing prices and low availability made the automobile an easy target... Seeing any patterns here yet my fellow Supraheads?
We are talking about geologic changes... When you look at geologic changes you need to look at them against a backdrop of geologic timeframes. 20 years? 50 years? 5000 years? To the geology of the planet these are periods of time quicker than an eyeblink.
If you look at the geologic record, we've been getting increasing temps for a VERY long time now. Your so called "global warming" can't be caused by the "Industrial Revolution" or the invention of the internal combustion engine. The warming trend began freaking 18,000 years ago people!
Back then earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of the USA, Canada,Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath sheets of glacial ice.
Now the evidence shows its getting cooler... And that is far worse for mankind. People thrive when it is warm, people don't' when it is cold. Compare the populations of the equator to the north pole if you want a practical example of this...
Stop letting policiticans, fear mongers and greedy shitheads lead you around by your shrunken testicles folks.
The planet isn't freaking going anywhere -- we are...
Probably due to some crackpot dictator in a country 1/2 of you couldn't find on a map...
But keep listening to the bullshit, keep voting for your corrupt and inept leaders, keep letting people lead you around like sheep, it's doing a wonderful job of distracting you from the real problems.
Bah... 4am, I've got to be out of my mind being up this late...
Acid rain and global cooling were the "big deal" in the 70's.
If you check the trends, global temperatures showed cooling from 1945 to the early/mid 1970's. People were freaking out, blaming industrialization and automobiles for the problem (much like they are today about global warming) and unfortunately (or fortunately) - the trend reversed itself just about the time the press & the public were getting all wadded up about it.
The gas crisis had a lot to do with it as well. The growing prices and low availability made the automobile an easy target... Seeing any patterns here yet my fellow Supraheads?
We are talking about geologic changes... When you look at geologic changes you need to look at them against a backdrop of geologic timeframes. 20 years? 50 years? 5000 years? To the geology of the planet these are periods of time quicker than an eyeblink.
If you look at the geologic record, we've been getting increasing temps for a VERY long time now. Your so called "global warming" can't be caused by the "Industrial Revolution" or the invention of the internal combustion engine. The warming trend began freaking 18,000 years ago people!
Back then earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of the USA, Canada,Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath sheets of glacial ice.
Now the evidence shows its getting cooler... And that is far worse for mankind. People thrive when it is warm, people don't' when it is cold. Compare the populations of the equator to the north pole if you want a practical example of this...
Stop letting policiticans, fear mongers and greedy shitheads lead you around by your shrunken testicles folks.
The planet isn't freaking going anywhere -- we are...
Probably due to some crackpot dictator in a country 1/2 of you couldn't find on a map...
But keep listening to the bullshit, keep voting for your corrupt and inept leaders, keep letting people lead you around like sheep, it's doing a wonderful job of distracting you from the real problems.
Bah... 4am, I've got to be out of my mind being up this late...
Yesterday was the hottest day in CA this year.
It was so hot that when I blinked, my eyeballs felt like they were burning.
It was so hot that when I blinked, my eyeballs felt like they were burning.
How is believing that global warming exists because you've heard people (so called "politicians") talk about it different from you saying global warming DOESN'T exist because YOU think it's bullshit and everyone should jump ship and join your side? They're both derived pretty much in the same manner, they just happen to be on different sides of the spectrum. I didn't have some politician put thoughts of Global Warming in my head, I have actually read about it and learned about it in some of my classes. But the average person is gonna hear about either side usually by word of mouth.
But who's to say just because you learn about eithehr side of the debate or hear about one side or another it's correct? If you recall people used to believe that the Earth was not only flat...but the center of the universe...and other's believed both were wrong. Obviously both were wrong.
It's one of those things where you should believe what you feel is correct. The future will show who was correct.
(I'm not out to offend or "attack" anyone, just some healthy debate so if any of that comes off in a negative way, know that I didn't mean it to :naughty: )
But who's to say just because you learn about eithehr side of the debate or hear about one side or another it's correct? If you recall people used to believe that the Earth was not only flat...but the center of the universe...and other's believed both were wrong. Obviously both were wrong.
It's one of those things where you should believe what you feel is correct. The future will show who was correct.
(I'm not out to offend or "attack" anyone, just some healthy debate so if any of that comes off in a negative way, know that I didn't mean it to :naughty: )
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SupraDerk said:
This is science. I've evaluated the geologic & scientific records and have reached a conclusion based upon reason. The information is out there, all you need to do is find it. The "average" guy is pretty damned ignorant, and he's got no excuse for it.
As Bertrand Russsel said; "The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."
The dumb masses belief in anything, by that very fact, makes me question it...
SupraDerk said:
I'm not "believing" anything. This is not a faith based issue. It's reason. Search the records, educate yourself, evaluate the results, come to a conclusion, defend it. Then we at least are operating within the realm of reason. And if you bring new evidence to the table, I'll gladly re-evaluate my position. That's the beauty of reason vs. faith. It's a self correcting process.
The cases you mention above were superstition and belief. Science (and reason) was the cure for those, albeit widely held, but silly beliefs.
As I've said in the past, I'm damned sure that A=A, and I pity anyone who can't agree that something is what it is.
It sounds like you are working from a philosophy that "nothing is knowable with certainly" - sounds a lot like Relativism.
What relativisim is, for those of you who haven't bothered to study philosopy, is a very old set of beliefs that predate Plato.
What the relativists are asking you to believe is, IMO, kind of wacky...
"Nothing is knowable with certainty", they suggest.
Well if the proposition "nothing is knowable with certainly" is true then at least one thing is certainly true thus SOMETHING is knowable with certainty ergo the proposition fails. And if what I think is right is right, and I think the relativists are wrong, then I am RIGHT and they are WRONG.
It's a pernicious philosophy of despair. It's nonsensical from my perspective.
However Relativism has been around from the very beginning of humankind. I think it sticks around because a "not knowing anything" philosophy allows people to aviod having to work out difficult questions.
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Same here, I tend to be a bit brusque in these discussions, but I'm trying to cut through bullshit 99% of the time. Sometimes you have to push a little to get through it all.
Sure it is getting warmer in a natural cycle, but to say that the rate of increase in no way is directly effected by mans release of fossil fuel back into the enviroment is really sad and just plain wrong in my opinion.