"George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People"
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SP 7M said:
Well now, I don't know that it's ALL liberalism, BUT you have to admit that the problem also comes from lazyness and from everyone thinking that everyone is special. Everyone is a unique snow flake. You are special and unique, and you deserve a mass amount of our government's money. Fuck that. If you aren't given a chance, get off your ass. Go out and make something of yourself. Work anywhere, and work your ass off, if not to provide for yourself, to do so for your family.
Welfare and hand-outs should be by special circumstance, not an everyday part of life.
YourHondaSux said:
well for one if he did have a brain and wasnt a puppet, he would have used the 250+ Billion to help people here in america, and not to attack Iraq
If he cared for america he would have used the 286.5+ billion on schools instead of a new bill to make our roads better.
If he cared for america, he would have given more than 1+ billion to NASA to get to Mars. (WTF was he thinkin BTW)
get my point.
CTsupra
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^ if i was president, the space programs would be top priority on my list of things to do. for sure.
D34DC311 said:
Don't confuse having different priorities than you with him not caring.
Once again, this money isn't approved without congress. The President is only 1/3 of "the problem", if you want to call it one -aside from the Executive there are also the Judicial and Legislative branches. People forget about checks and balances so easily.
drunk_medic said:
i didnt forget to check, but he does chose, and the word puppet was in the statement.
our whole judical system needs to be fired and re thought.
If you don't like the way things are going in America, get out. If you think it's really that bad here and that you can find some place better (I dare you to try), get out. If you would rather sit on your ass and complain about what our government does wrong than give thanks to all that make it possible for you to have such freedoms, get out. If all you're not willing to do something, even the slightest thing to help make our country better, get out. If you are not a patriotic citizen, get the fuck out, for you are part of the problem.
Aside from Drunk Medic and myself, have any of you (that I'm directing this at-you [ingrates] know who you are) ever been to a third-world country? Do you think you know what real problems (as far as what the government lays on you) are?
I mean this with every bit of conviction possible.
It seems fairly inevitable that this thread will be closed. At least that will put an end to ignorant comments on such a topic here.
Aside from Drunk Medic and myself, have any of you (that I'm directing this at-you [ingrates] know who you are) ever been to a third-world country? Do you think you know what real problems (as far as what the government lays on you) are?
I mean this with every bit of conviction possible.
It seems fairly inevitable that this thread will be closed. At least that will put an end to ignorant comments on such a topic here.
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Adjuster
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I like the idea of changing the system.
Let's change to this.
Be a criminal. Get shot in the head.
Smoke crack? Get shot in the head.
Have kids you don't care for? Get shot in the head.
Be a lazy ass on welfare? Get shot in the head.
Shoot at those trying to rescue you? Getting shot in the head should be a mininum response.
You don't like the system, yet it protects your rights to even complain about the system you don't like? Your a fucking moron. (Like that piece of shit rapper on MTV.)
You think we should spend less on roads? Yet you sure enjoy driving on them? (Who pays for them dumbfuck?)
You think the poor should be handed wealth and education? We've been trying this experiment for years now, and it appears to be working, especially in light of what we are seeing on TV lately... (NOT.)
Welfare is a nice idea on paper, but in aplication, it's just handing money to the lazy, making them less likely to ever get out and make something of themselves. (Beyond making themselves a crack addict that is.)
I like the idea of un-employment. It gives you time to recover and find a new job. But it should be limted to a set time period, and the benefits should decrease every week. (First week, you get what you used to make. Second week, it goes down 10%. 4th week goes down 25%, 8th week, 50% and by the 12th week, your unemployment benefits end, and you start to starve. so take that job at McDonalds.) We would solve the illegal problem, and our employment problem by ending welfare, and revising unemployment benefits to reflect a need to find a new job when you lose the old one.
On the war against global terrorism (Let's get real and just say what it is? A war of the West v/s the Muslem need to dominate the world.) What we have spent on fighting for our freedom this time around, like in WW1 or WW2, is only going to be truely appriciated by our kids who will grow up free, and hopefully safe from some Muslem wearing a bomb vest/belt. (Or worse, learning to fly planes, or drive semi trucks like they did in New York, DC and PA, or over at Khobar towers, or the Embasy in Beruit. WE have been trying to be nice to Muslems for decades, and really they have just been like the people you now see on TV that have been living on Welfare for decades.
They bite the hand that feeds them.
One good thing the Koran teaches is to cut off the hand that steals. I say swing the blade again, and lop off the head that complains about not being able to steal anymore, and how they are entitled to be able to steal/loot/rape/smoke crack or whatever.
I've lived outside of the USA for many years of my life. There is no better country to live in. There are others that are very nice, and those are the countries that have freedom for the citizens. Freedom from high taxes, or freedom from corrupt governments is pretty dang rare, and we are about as free as it gets anymore. (And our freedoms are being trashed every day by those who do not appreciate that freedom is NOT free, it's earned.) WE earn the freedom. Most of it's been paid for with the blood of many good men and women who have died for your freedom.
Give them some respect and stop your whining, and get your ass to work, get an education and make something of yourself, and your freedom.
Let's change to this.
Be a criminal. Get shot in the head.
Smoke crack? Get shot in the head.
Have kids you don't care for? Get shot in the head.
Be a lazy ass on welfare? Get shot in the head.
Shoot at those trying to rescue you? Getting shot in the head should be a mininum response.
You don't like the system, yet it protects your rights to even complain about the system you don't like? Your a fucking moron. (Like that piece of shit rapper on MTV.)
You think we should spend less on roads? Yet you sure enjoy driving on them? (Who pays for them dumbfuck?)
You think the poor should be handed wealth and education? We've been trying this experiment for years now, and it appears to be working, especially in light of what we are seeing on TV lately... (NOT.)
Welfare is a nice idea on paper, but in aplication, it's just handing money to the lazy, making them less likely to ever get out and make something of themselves. (Beyond making themselves a crack addict that is.)
I like the idea of un-employment. It gives you time to recover and find a new job. But it should be limted to a set time period, and the benefits should decrease every week. (First week, you get what you used to make. Second week, it goes down 10%. 4th week goes down 25%, 8th week, 50% and by the 12th week, your unemployment benefits end, and you start to starve. so take that job at McDonalds.) We would solve the illegal problem, and our employment problem by ending welfare, and revising unemployment benefits to reflect a need to find a new job when you lose the old one.
On the war against global terrorism (Let's get real and just say what it is? A war of the West v/s the Muslem need to dominate the world.) What we have spent on fighting for our freedom this time around, like in WW1 or WW2, is only going to be truely appriciated by our kids who will grow up free, and hopefully safe from some Muslem wearing a bomb vest/belt. (Or worse, learning to fly planes, or drive semi trucks like they did in New York, DC and PA, or over at Khobar towers, or the Embasy in Beruit. WE have been trying to be nice to Muslems for decades, and really they have just been like the people you now see on TV that have been living on Welfare for decades.
They bite the hand that feeds them.
One good thing the Koran teaches is to cut off the hand that steals. I say swing the blade again, and lop off the head that complains about not being able to steal anymore, and how they are entitled to be able to steal/loot/rape/smoke crack or whatever.
I've lived outside of the USA for many years of my life. There is no better country to live in. There are others that are very nice, and those are the countries that have freedom for the citizens. Freedom from high taxes, or freedom from corrupt governments is pretty dang rare, and we are about as free as it gets anymore. (And our freedoms are being trashed every day by those who do not appreciate that freedom is NOT free, it's earned.) WE earn the freedom. Most of it's been paid for with the blood of many good men and women who have died for your freedom.
Give them some respect and stop your whining, and get your ass to work, get an education and make something of yourself, and your freedom.
Dude.. you said alot of things that pop into my head sometimes. Bravo. I like to see that some people in the USA know what they have, and don't take it for granted. Most people in the USA who bitch about how horrible they have it have only seen oppression and poor living conditions on TV.
I tell ya, I'd rather be a bum living on the streets of the USA than middle class and live in North Korea.
I tell ya, I'd rather be a bum living on the streets of the USA than middle class and live in North Korea.
Adjuster-I feel ya, brother. I'd like to add to part of what you've said. As far as [abuse of] welfare and unemployment, this is government-reliance. This is Socialism, boys and girls. And Socialism has repeatedly failed as a form of government. The deaths of millions and millions of people is what happens when Socialism is your form of government. This is purely based on fact-do a little research on China's and Russia's history, that will prove it to you.
Sadly, what the leftists want today, in America, of all places, is Socialism, along with Communism and Marxism. Do I even have to say it? Yes, they are also both failed forms of government. That is what the Liberals want-America to fail and become less and less of what makes it so great. They want to take away everything that makes America the greatest country to live in.
Liberals will forever rot in their perpetual holes of intolerance.
I know that this isn't totally on the new topic we've chosen to discuss here, but... This may or may not come as a surprise to you, but it is a fact that the Islamists throughout the world have the intentions of taking over America. If you want to learn more about this, take it from a former Muslim who converted to Christianity, Anis Shorrosh. He has written a book about it, Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.
We, the patriotic American citizens, must fight the evil Left to make America what it once was, what it really is supposed to be.
Sadly, what the leftists want today, in America, of all places, is Socialism, along with Communism and Marxism. Do I even have to say it? Yes, they are also both failed forms of government. That is what the Liberals want-America to fail and become less and less of what makes it so great. They want to take away everything that makes America the greatest country to live in.
Liberals will forever rot in their perpetual holes of intolerance.
I know that this isn't totally on the new topic we've chosen to discuss here, but... This may or may not come as a surprise to you, but it is a fact that the Islamists throughout the world have the intentions of taking over America. If you want to learn more about this, take it from a former Muslim who converted to Christianity, Anis Shorrosh. He has written a book about it, Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.
We, the patriotic American citizens, must fight the evil Left to make America what it once was, what it really is supposed to be.
CTsupra
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hey, i agree with you guys, Adjuster, SP 7M, Drunk, lol. i just said i'd put more money into our space programs. 
...and i'm going to have to read that book by Anis Shorrosh. i know some non-terrorist muslims, and they swear their religion is not about taking over America.
though this is particulary wrong to say, but i don't care, - i say we abolish that god damn religion. how about religion period? all the wars we fight are over religion in some way or the other. well, not all, but some.
...and i'm going to have to read that book by Anis Shorrosh. i know some non-terrorist muslims, and they swear their religion is not about taking over America.
though this is particulary wrong to say, but i don't care, - i say we abolish that god damn religion. how about religion period? all the wars we fight are over religion in some way or the other. well, not all, but some.
did anyone check out ebaumsworld.com for the vid of Kanye? lemme find it.....
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/kanyewest.html Easy enough to remember....... anyway, just thought some people may not have caught it, or may want to see it again......... He sounds like.... ummm..... "slow".... :icon_conf
Anyway, just fueling the fire......
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/kanyewest.html Easy enough to remember....... anyway, just thought some people may not have caught it, or may want to see it again......... He sounds like.... ummm..... "slow".... :icon_conf
Anyway, just fueling the fire......
I thought that he sounded upset and out of place, like he was either being put up to it, or he felt like he HAD to tell what he believed to be the truth in spite of what would obviously hurt his reputation and may kill his record sales. Then again, this is sad, but it may actually boost his record sales among minorities. Many minorities side with Liberalism and the Democrats, hate the likes of George Bush's "cracka ass" and they see the likes of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice as "Uncle Toms". Instead of seeing this as a step forward, to see these high ranking minorities in society, many minorities see it as "The black man/woman being subservient to the white man". It's absolutely ludicrous.
SP 7M said:
i am assuming this was directed at me.
correct?
as for you thinking im complaining. i'm not. and as for me doing my part, i am. im going to college and im speeking my mind. I dont want to lead a rebelion, but i do want to open the eyes of people who are brainwashed by our government.
and 3rd world country, hahah, i read about them everyday, do you know what i can do about this NOTHING, i can speak my mind and try to get people to understand that attackin IRAQ was not, a peace mission. you want to help a country, go to north africa, help them, but we wont you know why, cause they lack what we need.
so please dont act like im completly ignorant.
im only 19, i have my own fate i must follow, but i can help others find theirs with my knowledge.
Adjuster said:
this is how i feel about a lot of issues. people have bent our law system to get around it. to fix this make the laws more forceful, and put a judge in that has common sence, and the jury that has common sence too.
all these rediculus law suites you hear about on TV, they shouldnt even make it to court. it should be thrown out.
but it makes it to the table because, of our laws.
the bills and laws need to be more black and white, about %1 of all laws are read thuroley(sp?) by every polotition(sp?) that lays their hands on it.
have you ever looked at a bill, read one on time, they are worded like this:
Refer to section 4((a)(2)II) on page 93, ect.
to me after reading 30 of these i would start to get confused.
im not even going to get into big companies and their lobbieist.(sp?)
SP 7M said:
But we must start with the basis, our inside and not on the outside. The true problem is not the middle east, the children over there are still open to the outside world they will rise, they are tired of fighting, believe me their time will come. In our life time we will see a united middle east and religion will not be the basis, separation of church and state, you cant brain wash someone that is educated.
Drunk_Medic said:
Education my friend, education. A lot of miniorities still have the mind set, and still teach their children that, the white man is the enemy. they still have the mind set "You enslaved our people, and me"
this is not the situation with all of them, but with many, with the uneducated.
It's often been said that one of the most dangerous things in the world is a college kid with a cause. Young enough to be easily swayed, and energetic enough to really do some damage.
Winning their hearts and minds is simple - figuring out what you want them to do after you have them is the hard part. "Make everyone hate their own country and their leaders".
Seriously, politics are not simple. It's not hack-n-slash button-pushing like you are playing a game of Diablo. I don't think you really understood what I was saying about "checks and balances", especially when you said "I didn't forget to check". I'm not trying to make you look dumb, but checks and balances are what describes our government's process of making laws and decisions. Represented by your 3 branches of government [Judicial, Legislative and Executive], each makes up 1/3. You need 2/3 vote to approve. That means if something is bad, the President can veto, and it's up to the others to make it happen, and if they want it that badly, they can make it happen despite the President's wishes. Basically, if George Bush says "Yes, I want us to go blow up the Krispy Kreme in Baghdad" doesn't mean he is the one to take the blame. Blame your State Representatives and Senators, and the Judges, because they have a hand in it as well.
Going into Iraq to take care of business was a smart thing - it's a rocky, sandy country, roughly the size of California, a large area where it would be EASY to tuck away a huge weapons cache, that had a mad tyrant for a ruler - a man who ruled for YEARS. There is no maximum term for a dictator. His history of oppression and cruelty makes him look right at home next to John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy. Do you want a man who performed horrid experiments and tests for biological agents on his own people to have his hands on these items and a means to spread them well beyond the borders of his own country?
We were already in the middle east - why not kill two birds with one stone?
Winning their hearts and minds is simple - figuring out what you want them to do after you have them is the hard part. "Make everyone hate their own country and their leaders".
Seriously, politics are not simple. It's not hack-n-slash button-pushing like you are playing a game of Diablo. I don't think you really understood what I was saying about "checks and balances", especially when you said "I didn't forget to check". I'm not trying to make you look dumb, but checks and balances are what describes our government's process of making laws and decisions. Represented by your 3 branches of government [Judicial, Legislative and Executive], each makes up 1/3. You need 2/3 vote to approve. That means if something is bad, the President can veto, and it's up to the others to make it happen, and if they want it that badly, they can make it happen despite the President's wishes. Basically, if George Bush says "Yes, I want us to go blow up the Krispy Kreme in Baghdad" doesn't mean he is the one to take the blame. Blame your State Representatives and Senators, and the Judges, because they have a hand in it as well.
Going into Iraq to take care of business was a smart thing - it's a rocky, sandy country, roughly the size of California, a large area where it would be EASY to tuck away a huge weapons cache, that had a mad tyrant for a ruler - a man who ruled for YEARS. There is no maximum term for a dictator. His history of oppression and cruelty makes him look right at home next to John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy. Do you want a man who performed horrid experiments and tests for biological agents on his own people to have his hands on these items and a means to spread them well beyond the borders of his own country?
We were already in the middle east - why not kill two birds with one stone?
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