Ebay oil relocation kit.

siman

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Got mine in today and WOW am I impressed by the quality!

I bought the N/A oil block filter adapter last week for only $11.

Its plug and play ( well basically) I will finally get rid of that stocker with the check valves! Now I am well on my way to 60+lbs of oil pressure:love:


And another note, its HEAVY! Billet aluminum CNC'd to perfection! There are NO spurs or miss grinds at ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
 

supra90turbo

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no reason to only trust OEM filters.
but, if that's the case, then you can still upgrade to an ACDelco PF2 i believe... same as a Fram PH8A(which i wouldnt suggest anyone use)

i will be using a K&N PH8A equivalent, as i've heard good about K&N oil filters.

but, part of the beauty of relocating an oil filter is enjoying the freedom to use a much larger oil filter, increasing filter media surface area as well as oil capacity (the PH8A equivalents hold 1 quart alone)

if i have a free moment, and ever get my camera out of my brother's hands i will get some pictures.
 

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supra90turbo said:
no reason to only trust OEM filters.
but, if that's the case, then you can still upgrade to an ACDelco PF2 i believe... same as a Fram PH8A(which i wouldnt suggest anyone use)

i will be using a K&N PH8A equivalent, as i've heard good about K&N oil filters.

but, part of the beauty of relocating an oil filter is enjoying the freedom to use a much larger oil filter, increasing filter media surface area as well as oil capacity (the PH8A equivalents hold 1 quart alone)

if i have a free moment, and ever get my camera out of my brother's hands i will get some pictures.
larger oil filter, increasing filter media surface area as well as oil capacity (the PH8A equivalents hold 1 quart alone)
THAT'S what i'm talkin' about
 

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Not me.

And I am not going to get into an argument about filter sizing and whats best...since everyone thinks their ideas are better than others.

All I know is I just wanted it mainly for EASE of changing the oil and getting rid of the bypass ( check) valves in the system that LIMIT the maximum oil pressure of 41lbs.

So:
1. Higher oil pressure
2. Ease of changing oil ( new location)
3. oil running cooler ( getting aftermarket oil cooler )

thats all I wanted.

And for $76 shipped, I cannot argue! The quality is ( and seems to be ) far superior to those of the other brands carried by Summit and sorts. This is totally CNC'd and milled to perfection! And every bolt is very high grade!

-Jonathan
 

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supraman7mgte said:
ease thats for sure...first time i changed my oil,i bitched the whole time about the location...


Yeah i know! oil dripping on the lower A frame....ugh...so nasty! I got to the point where I am just taking it to Toyota to get them to do the change ( $10 labor....its worth it, especially right now in the wintertime....I am NOT going to freeze just to change the oil.)

I am going to mount the filter up near the front, maybe opposite of the oil cooler ( on passenger side)....thats a great place!

Its going to be a couple of months until this goes on though...the whole motor is comming out again for the turbo install ( as well as all the electronics!).....I am planning to take off a week in spring time to just do it right!

I have to replace the front and rear main seals again though....they are leaking because of my stupid fault...:nono:

-Jonathan
 

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i just remember the time i saw a mustang at the track (fox body) and he had a twin filter relocation mounted high on the firewall with twin fram filters and i just shook my head and walked away. :greddy:

i dont want to get in a filter argument either. if you wanted to use fram, i would advise against it, but then let you do whatever you wanted.
i'm just saying, there are plenty of filters out there that will work better. amsoil filters.... mmmmmmm
but, hey. i wont diss. when i get another supra, i will use a different relocation with a factory filter mos def. just because i want to keep the 2nd supra a more down to earth type of DD comfortable car.
 

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Hope that you that you understand, the "stock" filter your getting at the dealer is not the same as the one used at the manufacturing plant and is definatly not the best filter availible. In the automotive world just like in goverment the lowest bidder always wins. And also remember that high oil pressure is not always a good sign. Hydro dynamic bearings can essentuall work on Zero PSI. The rotation of the parts causes the parts to SKI on the oil no pressure required. Oil pressure is just an indication of OIL flow which is more important. I will be adding a remote oil filter though to my 1JZ, it was a difficult and messy task getting to the oil filter.
 

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For that money you could've installed a submicronic depth filter and forgot about changing your oil and full flow for 20K or more miles.

And these guys are right: OEM oil filters (Denso) are easily beaten. Donaldson, Baldwin, Purolater Pure One, WIX, or Mann-Hummel come to mind. Amsoil is good but made by Donaldson and overpriced, as are M1 and K&N. For the money it's hard to beat a WIX or Pure One. The absolute last thing you should use is Fram.

Nor is higher oil pressure necessarily a good thing. It's not about other's ideas of what's better, it's about understanding the science of tribology and filtration..
 

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There aren't that many factorys making Filters these days so most are just rebranded/painted for each "supplier".

Even a cheap filter can be fine if it's replaced frequently (2 filters per Oil change, say one at 1000 miles the 2nd at 2000 then a full change at 3000)

Filters are cheap compared to a rebuild to repair Rod Knock.
 

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you know i was looking at the stock GTE filter mount and was thinking about closing up the relief valve in the bracket.

one of the problems with a relocation kit with the stock turbo set up is clearance, it is extremely tight up against the IC pipe. using the stock bracket with a closed off bypass valve, and an oil filter relocation adapter would be a nice setup in my opinion. plenty of space, no oil lines pressed up against the side of an IC pipe, eventually causing a nice oil fire in the engine bay........

thoughts? maybe this deserves another thread, i dunno.
 

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lagged said:
you know i was looking at the stock GTE filter mount and was thinking about closing up the relief valve in the bracket.

one of the problems with a relocation kit with the stock turbo set up is clearance, it is extremely tight up against the IC pipe. using the stock bracket with a closed off bypass valve, and an oil filter relocation adapter would be a nice setup in my opinion. plenty of space, no oil lines pressed up against the side of an IC pipe, eventually causing a nice oil fire in the engine bay........

thoughts? maybe this deserves another thread, i dunno.


The reason I am not rushing to put it on right now. I have that kit I have compiled to put on this spring!

-Jonathan
 

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IJ. said:
There aren't that many factorys making Filters these days so most are just rebranded/painted for each "supplier".

Even a cheap filter can be fine if it's replaced frequently (2 filters per Oil change, say one at 1000 miles the 2nd at 2000 then a full change at 3000)

Filters are cheap compared to a rebuild to repair Rod Knock.

Gonna had to disagree on this one mate ;)

I don't even run a full flow oil filter. Haven't in years. And rarely do I change oil. Going on 140K miles and runs like a watch. It's what cracks me up when I see all the hype about what filter to use.

That said, there are distinct differences between filters even when made by the same firm. Nitrile verus silicone ADBV, bypass in threaded end versus domed end, pleat count, media type and Beta ratings, on and on. Take the Walmart SuperTech series for example. Made by Champion Labs but much different than say, a Mobil 1, also made by Champion.

Not that it matters, at less than 25 microns or so the stuff that causes wear zips right through a full flow anyway. It just keeps circulating in the engine doing it's dirty work since automotive oils are designed to keep crap in suspension. All full flows do is catch the big stuff that doesn't exist in a healthy engine and pass everything esle. They're good for one thing: catching metal should the engine fail. Most wear isn't even caused by the dirty oil anyway. You need to use a preoiler or accumulator to solve those problems.

As I said, if you want analytically clean oil use a submicronic depth filter, especially if you're running very low efficiency (read piss poor) induction filtration like a K&N. It also removes moisture from the oil, something a cellulose full flow can't.

No moisture means no acid. No acid means no corrosion of either engne parts or a lowering of the oil's TBN. The oil will last a long time and always be clean, as will the engine. In fact, analysis will often show the oil to be cleaner than when it came out of the bottle. The add pack is replenished by make up oil during the depth filter change or a good add pack enhancer can be used. The point is full flow filters are pretty much useless anyway and if the oil is being cleaned to the submicron level even more so.

Even with only a full flow, anyone who changes oil every 3K miles is just throwing away time, good oil, and filters. Anyone who does it with synthetics is nuts, especally when using a Group IV or V. Generally speaking, even the cheapest and smallest filter on the market today is good for a minimum of 10K miles in a healthy engine and oil nearly that long, much longer when using depth filtration and PAO or Ester based synthetics.

In fact a filter's efficiency increases with age but people still doggedly change them long before they should. If they'd study widely available research, cut their used filters open, and do oil analysis (as every other sector from industrial to aviation does) they'd know better. But since old habits die hard the 3000 mile oil change lingers like the outdated information it is. Makes people feel good though ;)

I won't even get into the right oils to use. I've seen so much misconception. myth, and mistake about oils (and coolant) on most forums I'm not even going to try and change it.