e-manage Ultimate...Yay or nay?

Inygknok

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Bishop92t said:
The ultimate should work in the very least the same way the blue did. The real question is whether or not the extra features will work, and will they be easy to setup, i.e. AFM removal.

It all depends on what you're trying to do with the car. If you've got the money to spend and you're trying to squeak every last horsepower out of the car then you really should get a standalone. If you've got a little less money then the blue or ultimate are the best piggybacks you can buy. Personally I'd recommend the blue to most people as the extra features of the ultimate can be very confusing for the average tuner. The ultimate is just another step towards standalone, without actually being a standalone.
Thanks, that's the type of answer I was waiting for :icon_razz
 

theDon

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Inygknok said:
So now tell us how you managed to get it to work and such! :biglaugh:

Sorry I can't speak to how it works and installation, my setup is all brand new. I bought it and have been working on my car for 1 year now. I am going simple now (AFC neo) so my GEMU is up for grabs.

here is where you can read a lot about the GEMU - http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/index.html

screenshots of the software, description of hardware etc etc.
 

Bishop92t

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I'm looking over the GEMU (mmm acronyms) instruction manual and it appears they still have the same application I copied for the Eman blue (3000GT). It also looks like the same wire color scheme was used so as far as wiring goes the GEMU and GEMB are identical.

Wish I had time these days to fiddle with one. I'd be interested to see how well the new features work with the 7m. Really it just depends on how similar the 3000GT KV AFM signal is to our own, or at least if it's on the same ratio. Could also try to find another KV AFM based car with a similar signal to our own, that application may work better.
 

Inygknok

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Question..... since apparently you should be able to remove the AFM.... in order to be able to tune with the GEMU even further, would it require a wideband 02? Or could you at least use one since the stock unit sucks for tuning?
 

theDon

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you want a wideband 02 for any tuning if you ask me, you can't tune if you don't know where you are at :)

GEMU allows you to get rid of AFM and go MAP with the pressure sensor harness. the GEMU also has an A/F input from your wideband sensor.
 

Adjuster

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I stopped being interested in the GEMU when I found out my E-01 would no longer interface with it. (I have the blue GEM and E-01, and it works, but I'd like to get rid of the AFM, and have the ability to "auto tune" based on AF's which I think is a much better way to go than fooling with +/- percentages across 256 points.... Too much of a fudge factor there for me since I HATE TUNING.) That being said, my last dyno pull resulted in a nice flat 11:1 AF as soon as the boost came into the picture.. :) A little rich, but safe. I think if the computer was watching the system via WB, I'd be willing to push this up to 12:1 at WOT/Boost and get some better power out of the motor.

Another one I'd like to try is leaner operation at cruise conditions with no load. (If there is a hill, or headwind, then the throttle position would change over to indicate a load, and the AF would return to 14.7:1 like normal.) Better fuel economy would be nice, especially since I have coatings in this motor that in theory should allow lean operation with no damage to any parts.
 

suprra_girl

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well... as i said earlier on in this thread i don't see why it wouldn't work as you can pretty much select the options, i.e. 2jz - 3.0, map or afm, group fire ignition, injectors then you can tune in
i'm not sure if it's that easy but someone like dr. j or bishop pls go buy one and see if it will work ;)
we love what you guys and heaps of others do for the community :)

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so i was in the middle of editing the post and my pc crashed, so now i gotta write it again lol

when you choose 2jz you can only change airflow map to certain engine types
so it seems doing it that way is out
when you choose 6g72 you have a few maps to change to but is the 6g72 wasted spark?

what other 3.0 turbo karman engines exist that use wasted spark?
 
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supramike7m

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how do yall think e-manage blue compares to the map ecu? im ready to purchase one or the other, so just curious. im leaning toward the blue. also the emu will require a maf still correct? thanks.
Mike