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[SupraDerk]

here its all about smoke and angle of attack...or what ever you please, but there, they do it up in the mountains.

I hate to break it to you...but D1 Gran Prix..started by Keiichi Tsuchiya (aka "The Drift King") himself...started in Japan and guess what it's all about. That's right, racing line, amount of smoke, consistency of smoke and all around style. Most of the drifters over there aspire to be in D1GP like a lot of drivers here aspire to drag race or road race. True Tsuchiya and the others like him started drifting in the mountains, but they all used it as a place to practice and have fun as most of them were into JGTC and road racing. Tsuchiya started the craze mainstream over there because he'd do long tail slides during races because he would always win so easily and got bored.

Lots of Americans have this ideal Initial D fantasy about drifting, but it's no different over there than here. And hating on drifting is more of a fad than the drift craze itself. Everyone should just get over it. If you like drifting genuinely then drift. Fuck everyone else. If you don't then that's fine too. jesus...

-Derek

edit: fixed a couple of spelling errors

 

[PROJECT N00b]

i stand corrected...again.

 

[88supraTT]

I heard the 2nd gen RX7's steering rack is a straight drop in for our cars but I doubt it.


I would probally like drifting if I never saw the WRC.

ill go take a look, my brother has a 87 T2:naughty:

 

[SpoolinSupra]

My problem with drifting is that i see all the morons going out and buying 240sx's, putting the weak ass sr in them, and powersliding and spinning out half the time and have stickers like "slide or die" and stupid shit like that...genuine drifting is a cool form of competition...not a buncha sissies with 200 hp thinking their drifters in their 12 color beat ass nissans who cant even master the simplest power oversteer technique....Id like to see them swing the heavy tank ass mkiii around and hold a powerslide...theyd shit themselves

 

[OneJoeZee]

^Interesting first post. You seem to have some vendetta against 240sx's.

 

[Yellow 13]

My problem with drifting is that i see all the morons going out and buying 240sx's, putting the weak ass sr in them, and powersliding and spinning out half the time and have stickers like "slide or die" and stupid shit like that...genuine drifting is a cool form of competition...not a buncha sissies with 200 hp thinking their drifters in their 12 color beat ass nissans who cant even master the simplest power oversteer technique....Id like to see them swing the heavy tank ass mkiii around and hold a powerslide...theyd shit themselves

Everyone needs to start out somewhere. You cant start out a total pro at something. The reason so many kids chose the 240's are because they're a cheap car thats a great platform for drifting.

 

[cruzinbill]

haha...why dont you guys like the drifters? i want to know why? this is interesting, is it because all of a sudden "drifting" is the new thing? because some people here probably heard about it long before it got to main stream. what do you guys see MKiii's as anyways? wangan cars, or what? let me know. i want to know why you guys dont like drftrs.

drifting is not a new thing just some "new" bullshit version of it. until it came to the states "mainstream" with this D1 bullshit it was great. i rememeber seeing old drift vids when i was younger from when it "wasnt heard of" and then it was the fun days of gran turismo 1 and 2 tryning to make sweet drift setups for the cars when most people that were in the U.S. had no idea what a Evo was letalone a Over inflated skyline. and there were a few drifters of MKIII's in tulsa but im not sure if they are still around or not.... hmm hope i didnt get to far off topic. ill try finding the setup i had on my 88 back when i was "learning" to drift.

 

[pimptrizkit]

drifting takes alot of skills, in most cases, you purposly lose control of your car to gain control of your car.


i have seen soo many 240's with body damge to the rear left or right qaurtor panle it's rediculous..



the mkiii is a heavy bitch, but with alot of pratice, (in wide open parking lots with no polls! you can easy learn how to keep the car in power and look good while doing so.

i think where alot of people go wrong is the fact the think you need to be doing 60+mph into a drift..

while honestly some of the funist drifts ive been in were around 25mph.. and very bald tires.. maybe a little wet too :biglaugh:

 

[cruzinbill]

I heard the 2nd gen RX7's steering rack is a straight drop in for our cars but I doubt it.


I would probally like drifting if I never saw the WRC.

110% will not.... ive got a pic at home of them side by side since there is my roomates 90 FC in the garage with my other supra


and sorry bout the double post

 

[cruzinbill]

drifting takes alot of skills, in most cases, you purposly lose control of your car to gain control of your car.


i have seen soo many 240's with body damge to the rear left or right qaurtor panle it's rediculous..



the mkiii is a heavy bitch, but with alot of pratice, (in wide open parking lots with no polls! you can easy learn how to keep the car in power and look good while doing so.

i think where alot of people go wrong is the fact the think you need to be doing 60+mph into a drift..

while honestly some of the funist drifts ive been in were around 25mph.. and very bald tires.. maybe a little wet too :biglaugh:

True to that... i started out with my 82 MK2 in open parking lots then "graduated" to my 88 na when i got it... then i went on to a 88 turbo.. starting out smal and slow. help you get to know the car and basic manuevers

 

[SupraDerk]

These threads are rediculous. I look at drifting back when it wasn't mainstream and I look at drifting now and you know what...I see the same thing. Drifting like most things was bound to "grow up" eventually and it has. I'm glad it has because now you will start to see some changes for the better. D1 is not some "new bullshit version" of anything. D1 is the same as drifting competitions have been for the last almost 20 years now.

As for seeing 240's with body damage and it being rediculous. This statement is pretty rediculous. Name one professional drifter that hasn't wrecked their car. Body damage + drifting = a part of life ...it's going to happen at some point or another.

 

[cruzinbill]

there was def. a time when drifting was not just smoking the tires goin around the track... there was a time when people actually still raced while drifting. now its one car at a time unless they are doing a dual drift.... wich i havent seen done very well in along time by the "pros" of the U.S.


one vid off the top of my head is one that has "99 Red Balloons" as the song and it starts out with the drifters wanted logo.... find that vid and you will see when drifting wasn't D1.

i believe this is it... sorry i cant see it over java is broken on these pieces of crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrkpJGWs2Mw&search=drift

 

[SupraDerk]

Are you kidding me? Tandem drifting (two drifters on the track at once) is what happens after the top 16 qualify (prior to the top 16 it's single runs to see who drifts through the course better). Then the top 8...then top 4...then a tandem drift to see whose 3rd and 4th place...and then finally 1st and 2nd.

Since D1 has been around it's always been about style over speed. Who can control their drift better, produce the most smoke, drive with the better angle and take the best (or sometimes most dangerous) line.

 

[SupraDerk]

What you are failing to realize is that there are different venues for drifting. You're trying to lump it all into this ideal thing and ignore everything else. There are such things as drift days, drift time attacks, drift competitions, street drifting, drift racing ...

I wouldn't call that before or after D1...it's what it is, it happened then, and it's still happening now. What you have in the U.S. is drift competitions. Drifting has to have some kind of foothole in order for it to be recognized as a motorsport and in order to introduce the other aspects of it. The same freaking thing happened in Japan. Tsuchiya even talked about how people took him as a fool and an idiot for sliding his car around like then and how drift competitions (D1) opened the doors for some of the other types of track drifting in Japan.

 

[PROJECT N00b]

damn, someones been reading thier stuff.

 

[cruzinbill]

I just dont think of D1 as real drifting and I dont think real drifting will ever reach the states.. we will end up making it another shitty car sport like nascar. Hell you cant even really watch WRC in most places here and thats alot more popoular than drifting

 

[BosoMKII]

there was def. a time when drifting was not just smoking the tires goin around the track... there was a time when people actually still raced while drifting. now its one car at a time unless they are doing a dual drift.... wich i havent seen done very well in along time by the "pros" of the U.S.

What? Are you just pulling this stuff out of your ass? These threads crack me up its the same stuff every time

Guy interested in drifting: What do I need to do?
Guy who knows something: advice
Everyone else: Drift is stupid. Its not racing. I don't get it. Ugly beat up Nissans.

Drift is fun. It takes skill and practice. Its super rad and if you like driving your car fast try it, it will make all your other driving better. Yes its hard on the car, but so is any type of motorsports. Drive it or hard park. Yes you are going to crash at least a little bit at some point. If you can't deal with the possibility then motorsports of almost any kind are not for you. Some of the best drifters I know drive super beat POS cars and all the guys with beautiful poslished cars can't drive for shit because they don't want to hurt their pretty car. [/rant]

 

[BosoMKII]

I just dont think of D1 as real drifting and I dont think real drifting will ever reach the states.. we will end up making it another shitty car sport like nascar. Hell you cant even really watch WRC in most places here and thats alot more popoular than drifting

How is it not real? Because you have some idea that "real" drifting is only done in the mountains of Japan?

Drifting is a style of driving. You can do it anywhere.

 

[OneJoeZee]

I just dont think of D1 as real drifting and I dont think real drifting will ever reach the states.. we will end up making it another shitty car sport like nascar. Hell you cant even really watch WRC in most places here and thats alot more popoular than drifting

You live in Arkansas, so unless you've been out here in CA where alot of competitions happen I wouldn't expect you to have the best opinion. I've been to numerous events. You don't know what you're talking about if you don't think D1 is real drifting.

 

[PROJECT N00b]

there is no such thing as fake drifting.